Re: Young Dr Freud

2002-12-03 Thread Allen Esterson
On 2 November Beth wrote: Hi Allen, Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to answer my questions. I'm digesting the material you provided . I cannot tell a lie (as George Washington supposedly said, though that's most likely a myth too), I am a little sad that I'll no longer be able

Re: Young Dr Freud

2002-12-03 Thread Allen Esterson
Sorry, folks, about coming back to this topic just when you thought you’d heard the last of it (from me at least), but this time it’s to correct a momentary misapprehension of my own. On rereading my message just posted I realized that I had made an error. It is certainly true that around the

Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS

2002-12-02 Thread Allen Esterson
Beth, thanks for your generous and thoughtful reply to my messages about the PBS program on Freud. I’ll try to respond to the points you raise as briefly as I can manage! I’ll e-mail comments about Freud’s relationship with Breuer to you directly because it’s not important enough to take up space

Re: Young Dr Freud

2002-12-02 Thread Beth Benoit
Title: Re: Young Dr Freud Hi Allen, Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to answer my questions. I'm digesting the material you provided . I cannot tell a lie (as George Washington supposedly said, though that's most likely a myth too), I am a little sad that I'll no longer

Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS

2002-12-01 Thread Beth Benoit
Title: Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS Allen Easterson wrote a delightfully erudite expose of some of the Freud myths. Having just finished reading Allen's post along with my Sunday morning coffee, I've abjectly decided to add myself to the league of lazy TV watchers I so spurningly derided in my

Re: Young Dr. Freud on PBS

2002-12-01 Thread Stephen Black
On 1 Dec 2002, Beth Benoit wrote: Allen Easterson wrote a delightfully erudite expose of some of the Freud myths. snip And a characteristically thoughtful response from Beth, showing her independence from either camp. Finally, despite Allen and Stephen Black's comments that the

Re: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-30 Thread Beth Benoit
Title: Re: Young Dr. Freud Can I put in a tiny vote for the PBS presentation of Freud? Yes, there were a lot of things missing. I would have loved, for example, to see more discussion of the uproar following Freud's presentation of Seduction Theory. It was mentioned, then not referred to again

Re: Young Dr. Freud again

2002-11-30 Thread Christopher D. Green
Stephen Black wrote: Nevertheless, a handy web search suggests that deep space astronomers do call what they do experiments, even if they don't randomly assign planets to conditions. For example, NASA has something called Clementine Deep Space Probe Science Experiment, and I think their

RE: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-29 Thread Allen Esterson
On 28 November Stephen Black wrote: Young Dr. Freud, which I caught on PBS (US TV) last night thanks to the alert by Charles Harris is, as predicted by Charles, the standard admiring view as seen through the eyes of uncritical supporters. It offers no unpleasantness, no doubts, no dissenting

RE: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Rick Adams
Stephen wrote: That's Freud for you. A big wild man who has cocaine in his body. Isn't it a good thing we had Jung come along to straighten him out and make psychoanalysis scientific and respectable? Rick --always ready to add a bit of lateral motion to the thread ---

Re: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Christopher D. Green
Stephen Black wrote: Bailey titles his piece Sigmund Freud: Scientific Period (1873- 1897). (Note that The Interpretation of Dreams was published in 1900.) In a discussion appended to his paper, Bailey was asked why he stopped at 1897 in Freud's career. He responded: If you will accept the

RE: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Shearon, Tim
Christopher Green said: This is by no means to argue that Freud was correct. But surely that debate is long over. Questions about his historical influence are much more relevant. At the very least, he launched the psychodynamic approach to psychotherapy that dominated the whole of the 20th

Re: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Christopher D. Green
Shearon, Tim wrote: Christopher, Not to defend S. Black specifically and I don't want to argue too much that point about the whole of established medical practice. First, I do think that Christopher might be being too kind to stop with the end of the 20th century with being skeptical about

RE: Young Dr. Freud

2002-11-28 Thread Shearon, Tim
Chris- I hope I did not provoke you as that wasn't my intention. I indeed may have missed your point. I also think you are missing my point. You said: Freud's practices were common for medical people of his day. If you think that's nonscientific so be it, but it can't be used as a criticism of