Re: 'seductive details' in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread David Epstein
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Christopher D. Green went: I have little doubt that something like this happens to some students sometimes. But almost any sequence of events you'd care to describe happens to some students sometimes. That's why anecdotes are of questionable value as evidence. Oh, I agree. Th

RE: 'seductive details' in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread Louis Schmier
The University of South Dakota Vermillion SD 57069 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honors Program: (605) 677-5223 Dept. of Psychology: (605) 677-5295 -Original Message- From: Christopher D. Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:17 AM To: Teaching in the Psycholo

Re: 'seductive details' in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread Christopher D. Green
Peterson, Douglas (USD) wrote: The problem is that all of this assumes the final measure of a students benefit from a class comes at the end of the class, and assumption I'm not willing to make. WARNING anecdotal support ahead! Many students comment that because of my introductory psychology class

RE: 'seductive details' in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread David Epstein
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Peterson, Douglas went: WARNING anecdotal support ahead! Many students comment that because of my introductory psychology class they have decided to minor in psychology. I attribute this interest in psychology to "bringing the class to life" with these "seductive details" I've

RE: 'seductive details' in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread Peterson, Douglas \(USD\)
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Honors Program: (605) 677-5223 Dept. of Psychology: (605) 677-5295 -Original Message- From: Christopher D. Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:17 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences Subject: Re: 'seductive details&#x

RE: "seductive details" in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread John Kulig
Christopher:     I had the exact same reaction to the article! In the case of Watson and Baldwin, the “incident” had some significance because it propelled Watson into the chair at Hopkins and also editor of Psych Review. Did it speed up the flow of behaviorism into the mainstream

Re: 'seductive details' in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread Christopher D. Green
Don Allen wrote: Show me a study that indicates that the inclusion of "seductive details" makes students less interested in a course or less likely to take future courses in that subject and I will be quite concerned. In the meantime I will continue to spice up my lectures without fear. Respond

RE: "seductive details" in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread Peterson, Douglas \(USD\)
Don beat me to the point but I already has this typed up and I haven’t posted anything to the list in quite awhile so here were my thoughts.   I think there are two questions that should also be considered:   1)   Does the “seductive” material keep them coming back to class or readi

Re: 'seductive details' in lecture

2005-05-13 Thread Don Allen
I have heard this "concern" raised many times before and, frankly, I ain't worried. I decided long ago that my job is not to pour as many facts as posssible into the heads of students. Rather, it is to make the material sufficiently interesting that students will want to go out and study it on thei