Re: "constructivist" math

2005-11-10 Thread Ken Steele
Christopher Green wrote: (On top of the fact that I think it is plain silly to expect each student to effectively recapitulate the entire history of mathematics by themselves in the course of a basic public education.) This is what I find to be the weird Haeckelian notion that a student c

Re: "constructivist" math

2005-11-10 Thread Christopher Green
Rick Froman wrote: Christopher also wrote: "The constructivist method seems to be failing badly in the school district featured in the article, even with students whose parrents are mathematically sophisticated. That's got to be a bad sign for virtually everywhere else." Where was the eviden

Re: "constructivist" math

2005-11-10 Thread Paul Brandon
Title: Re: "constructivist" math At 9:25 AM -0500 11/10/05, Christopher Green wrote: Bob Grossman wrote: Allen Esterson wrote: This "traditional" approach to the teaching of mathematics in schools is not only, I believe, more effective than the constructivist approach, it i

RE: "constructivist" math

2005-11-10 Thread Rick Froman
cribed curricula, federal mandates, state benchmark testing, etc. I'm not sure yet, based on the Intelligent Design metaphor invoked in the original post on this thread, who are the fundamentalists and who are the progressives on the issue of constructivist math. Christopher also wrote: "

Re: "constructivist" math

2005-11-10 Thread Christopher Green
Bob Grossman wrote: Allen Esterson wrote: This "traditional" approach to the teaching of mathematics in schools is not only, I believe, more effective than the constructivist approach, it is also far less time-consuming, enabling considerably more material to be covered. I had similar opini

Re: "constructivist" math

2005-11-10 Thread Bob Grossman
Allen Esterson wrote: This "traditional" approach to the teaching of mathematics in schools is not only, I believe, more effective than the constructivist approach, it is also far less time-consuming, enabling considerably more material to be covered. I had similar opinions until this summer wh

Re: "constructivist" math

2005-11-10 Thread Rikikoenig
Another point in the NYT article discusses the use of calculators beginning in the early grades.  I have seen its use taught as early as 2nd grade.  These students never learn how to do the basic arithmetic operations independently.  The rationale for doing this is that they can learn to do

Re: "constructivist" math

2005-11-10 Thread Allen Esterson
hematics were derived and developed originally by people of outstanding intellectual abilities. To expect more than a small minority of children to arrive at the concepts themselves, even with the guidance I presume they must get in "constructivist math", is absurd -- and becomes more so with ev

Re: "constructivist" math

2005-11-09 Thread Mike Palij
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:34:07 -0800, Christopher D. Green: > >Here's a NYT article about a basic educational dispute that may >well outstrip the evolution "debate" in terms of its long-term >implications. I notice that most of my stats students know next >to nothing about trigonometry or probabil

"constructivist" math

2005-11-09 Thread Christopher D. Green
ath. Several teachers, in the privacy of their own classrooms, contravened the official curriculum to teach the problem-solving formulas that constructivist math denigrates as mindless memorization. "My whole experience in math the last few years has been a struggle against the program," Jim said