Re: Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-10-06 Thread truhons
It is quite possible for a study or a set of studies not to reach statistical significance because of small n's. Yet when combined in a meta-analysis there is a significant effect size. I heard Frank Schmidt talk about this advocating the removal of statistical significance and replacing it with

Re: Clinical vs. statistical significance

2000-10-03 Thread Bill Ghiselli
While it is true that statistical differences (i.e., real differences) are not always functionally different (e.g., a real difference of a couple of IQ points has no functional (clinincal) significance), the issue can be more complicated than just that. Many years ago I springboarded off Paul

Re: Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-09-29 Thread John W. Kulig
y, September 28, 2000 12:33 PM To: John W. Kulig; DAP Louw (Sielkunde) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Clinical vs statistical significance At 09:42 AM 9/28/00 -0400, John W. Kulig wrote: (snip) Say, isn't it time we revived our discussion about how awkward the term "significa

RE: Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-09-29 Thread Stuart Mckelvie
Dear Tipsters, Michael wrote: What is wrong with "confidence level"? If we can reject the null hypothesis at the .05 level, we are 95% confident that a real difference exists. Strictly speaking, if alpha is set at .05 and p alpha, then we reject Ho. We mean that in repeated sampling

RE: Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-09-29 Thread Wuensch, Karl L.
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Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-09-28 Thread DAP Louw (Sielkunde)
Tipsters Can someone please refer my to a source that will shed some light on what precisely the "difference" between clinical and statistical significance is. One often hears somebody saying: "Yes, there is no statistical significance, but there is definitely a clinical significance." To

Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-09-28 Thread Claudia Stanny
From: "DAP Louw (Sielkunde)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone please refer my to a source that will shed some light on what precisely the "difference" between clinical and statistical significance is. One often hears somebody saying: "Yes, there is no statistical significance, but there is

Re: Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-09-28 Thread John W. Kulig
DAP: I suspect there are many different aspects to this question. Here is part of it. Often something will be statistically significant (p.05) but its practical effect small. e.g. first born children have higher IQ than second borns (p.05) but the practical consequence is small because it is

Re: Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-09-28 Thread Stuart Mckelvie
Dear Tipsters, John Kulig's post is excellent in distinguishing between different kinds of significance. I would add that we could distingish three kinds: statistical in the traditional sense, effect size (e.g., as revealed by meta-analysis, where Cohens guidelines for d =( M1-M2)/s are .2

Re: Clinical vs statistical significance

2000-09-28 Thread John W. Kulig
"Michael J. Kane" wrote: At 09:42 AM 9/28/00 -0400, John W. Kulig wrote: (snip) Say, isn't it time we revived our discussion about how awkward the term "significance" is for p statements? For the "n th" time, wouldn't _reliability_ be the better word? If p .05, we conclude the results of