RE: Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-12 Thread Don Allen
Dennis- Recently you said: "The study is now a true double-blind (Did I miss something?), but the control condition allows for more than one interpretation of any differences observed." The possibility of mulitiple interpretations _always_ exists regardless of level of control. Even if you

RE: Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-12 Thread Paul Brandon
At 5:43 PM -0400 8/11/99, Rick Adams wrote: Jim wrote: Wouldn't this only be true of DRUG studies? Presumably doctors performing operations know which one they are doing? I don't think the problem of double-blind studies for many treatments is unique to psychology. Two points:

Re: Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-12 Thread Diana J. Kyle
Hi Tipsters - I would also suggest an actual control condition in addition to the placebo condition. Diana Kyle Fullerton College Don Allen wrote: Dennis- Recently you said: "The study is now a true double-blind (Did I miss something?), but the control condition allows for more than one

Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-12 Thread Stephen Black
Comments on some of the interesting points raised in response to my proposed double-blind test of psychotherapy: On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Don Allen wrote: Not quite double blind, but very very close. You would also have to ensure that the therapists were equally convinced of the effectiveness

Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-11 Thread Stephen Black
Rick Adams wrote: "Some forms of alternative medicine don't lend themselves well to a rigid double-blind research approach (to use a psychological anology, try designing a double blind experiment to demonstrate the efficacy of cognitive therapy... Nothing like a little

Re: Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-11 Thread Don Allen
Stephen- Not quite double blind, but very very close. You would also have to ensure that the therapists were equally convinced of the effectiveness of their treatments otherwise differential experimenter enthusiasm could affect the Ss responses. That quibble aside, I agree that it would be

Re: Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-11 Thread Paul Brandon
At 8:34 AM -0700 8/11/99, Don Allen wrote: Stephen- Not quite double blind, but very very close. You would also have to ensure that the therapists were equally convinced of the effectiveness of their treatments otherwise differential experimenter enthusiasm could affect the Ss responses. That

RE: Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-11 Thread Jim Clark
Hi On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Rick Adams wrote: Stephen Black wrote: Randomly assign subjects to either placebo therapy or cognitive therapy. So far, we have single-blind (subjects don't know which is the placebo). To make it double blind, have the outcome measures taken by independent

RE: Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-11 Thread Paul C. Smith
Rick Adams Stephen Black wrote: Bingo, double-blind study. QED. Except that, since the experimenters themselves would know if they were administering the placebo therapy or not, their interactions with the subjects could be compromised by the knowledge and the results skewed.

Re: Double-blind test of cognitive therapy

1999-08-11 Thread pamela
Rick Adams wrote: The alternative treatments approach, on the other hand, would not be testing the specific therapy alone, but would instead be comparing it to another known therapeutic system--a very different kind of experiment. ... I'll stick to my premise that in