RE: Statistics

2000-06-02 Thread Rob Flint
lfiume > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:46 PM > To: CHRISTOPHER HAKALA > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Statistics > > > Chris, > > I teach at Eureka College, which is also a small, liberal arts school. > Though we would like to teach statistics in our department

Re: Statistics

2000-06-02 Thread John W. Kulig
CHRISTOPHER HAKALA wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I teach at a small liberal arts college in PA. Every year, we go > through the debate over what to do with statistics. At our school, > stats > is taught in the math department. My preference would be to do the > course in our department. Does anyone kn

Re: Statistics

2000-06-01 Thread Jessica Le and Luke Dalfiume
Chris, I teach at Eureka College, which is also a small, liberal arts school. Though we would like to teach statistics in our department, it is taught out of the mathematics department, instead. My colleague does, however, teach an advanced statistics course for psychology and other social scien

Re: statistics course

2000-04-28 Thread Deb Briihl
One thing you might do is check to see if you can package SPSS for students with your book. The people who teach stats here have begun to look into this and it my be very worthwhile for your students. The bookstore here is charging $80 for SPSS for students alone, however, a book rep said that the

Re: statistics course

2000-04-27 Thread Judith A. Roberts
Dennis - I've been using Gravetter & Wallnau's "Statistics for the Behavioral Sciences" for the last 5 years because it provides great coverage of topics for a very thorough introductory course and it has excellent step-by-step explanations and descriptions of how and why the formulas work the way

RE: statistics course

2000-04-27 Thread Al Cone
Dennis, In my opinion, Lockhart is the best stat book I've ever used. As you know, first hand, that covers 30 years of teaching stat. I did have a problem the first time I used Lockhart in that many of the topics no other text covered I had to add as lectures and handouts in the past. With Lock

Re: statistics course

2000-04-27 Thread Kenneth M. Steele
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:19:25 -0400 Dennis Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have also started to collect internet resources to use in the course. Do > any of you know a good basic site with links to more specific sites? I am > hoping to find databases that I could use for illustration and

RE: Statistics and Significant Figures

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Clark
Whoops! On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Jim Clark wrote: > I also felt that the rules presumed a certain consistency in > writing out the raw numbers. For example if you measured > something to the nearest second and recorded it as 2, 3, etc., > then it would be processed as though there were only 1 > sign

RE: Statistics and Significant Figures

2000-04-20 Thread Jim Clark
Hi There is a lot on the www about significant digits/figures. Go into google (www.google.com) and search on "significant figures numbers" or the like. One site led to a simulation showing that the standard rules are _incorrect_ about half the time. There were some other interesting things rel

RE: Statistics and Significant Figures

2000-04-20 Thread Dennis Goff
Jim I am curious about this for several reasons. Stephen and Rick both shed some light, but those answers are not completely satisfying to me. Could we get an example of the problem? Thanks Dennis Dennis M. Goff Dept. of Psychology Randolph-Macon Woman's College Lynchburg, VA 24503 On Wed, 19 A

Re: Statistics and Significant Figures

2000-04-19 Thread Stephen Black
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jim Dougan wrote: > > My stats class typically draws some students from Chemistry and Biology. > Recently, one of the chemistry students was having a lot of trouble > getting the correct answers in her computations. I went through her work, > and discovered that she was appl

Re: Statistics and Significant Figures

2000-04-19 Thread Rick Froman
On 19 Apr 00, at 11:46, Jim Dougan wrote: > TIPsters > > Here is a question I have not seen addressed before > > My stats class typically draws some students from Chemistry and > Biology. Recently, one of the chemistry students was having a lot of > trouble getting the correct answers in

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-13 Thread Mark Sciutto
Jeff, I agree with several of the previous posts regarding the integration of stats and methods.In many ways, I think it is a more important question than the order of the two courses. I've had the opportunity to teach stats and methods independently as well as integrated. My conclusion is th

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Jim Clark
Hi On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, G. Marc Turner wrote: > At SWT we do have stats as a pre-req for our Methods course. In theory I > can see why this is a good idea, though I have to admit I'm not sure about > the real benefit in practice. It seems like they forget almost everything > from stats before the

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Lonnie Yandell
We require students to take a statistics course from the Mathematics Department as a prerequisite to our research sequence. The math stat course has an algebra requirement. Our Research Methods I course covers typical subjects in research, with an emphasis on experimental designs. For the Research

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Jim Clark
Hi On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Jeff Ricker wrote: > My questions: Is statistics a prerequisite for research methods at your > school? What are the arguments in favor of this? What are the arguments > opposed to this? Yes statistics is a prerequisite, something that I argued very strongly for against th

RE: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Charles M. Huffman
Jeff, I would favor statistics as a prerequisite for a methods course. However, I teach a two-semester Research Methods and Statistics course that integrates statistics with methods and design. For example, after we explore the design of a simple experiment (one IV, two levels, one DV), we move

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Gerald Peterson
Jeff, we require statistics before experimental for the reasons you stated; that is, they are expected to conduct a research project, analyze their data, and write up their report/or present it. We have so much to cover in experimental, we cannot spend time teaching stats. In addition,

RE: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Stephen M. Smith
>= Original Message From Jeff Ricker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >My questions: Is statistics a prerequisite for research methods at your >school? What are the arguments in favor of this? What are the arguments >opposed to this? Here, it is a prerequisite only for Psych majors. Non-psych majors can e

RE: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Dr. Kristina Lewis
Here statistics is integrated into a two semester research methods course. There is no other statistics requirement, although I encourage my advisees to take statistics as their math course for liberal studies. Kris Lewis Saint Michael's College Colchester VT

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread G. Marc Turner
At SWT we do have stats as a pre-req for our Methods course. In theory I can see why this is a good idea, though I have to admit I'm not sure about the real benefit in practice. It seems like they forget almost everything from stats before they get into my Methods course... perhaps I just feel lik

RE: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Paul C. Smith
Mike Scoles wrote: > We have stat as a prereq to methods. At times, I have thought that it > should be the other way around. Having exposure to research > designs first would provide greater relevance to statistial analysis of > those designs. I have the luxury of having my cake and eat

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Steven Specht
We too, have stats as a prerequisite for methods here at UC. I concur with Mike's sentiments below. Mike Scoles wrote: > Jeff - > > We have stat as a prereq to methods. At times, I have thought that it > should be the other way around. Having exposure to research designs first > would provide

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Mike Scoles
Jeff - We have stat as a prereq to methods. At times, I have thought that it should be the other way around. Having exposure to research designs first would provide greater relevance to statistial analysis of those designs. On the other hand, if research is presented as an attempt to explain v

Re: Statistics needed for research methods?

2000-04-12 Thread Stuart Mckelvie
Dear Tipsters, In reply to Jeff, here is our sequence: Major Stats 1 (up to t-test, including chi-square), followed by Methods I Stats 2 (correlation, anova) taken with Methods 1 Honours Stats 1 followed by Methods 1 Stats 2 taken with Methods 1 Then Methods 2 Stats 3 (multivariate) for cert

Re: Statistics statistic

1999-10-27 Thread Ron Blue
, October 27, 1999 3:08 PM Subject: RE: Statistics statistic > No! No! No! > The correct number is 67.943% > Sitting alone in my office and looking for something productive to do in the > 6.487 minutes before the start of my next class. > Dennis > > Dennis M. Goff >

Re: Statistics statistic

1999-10-27 Thread Annette Taylor
I just saw this, today, in fact! EXCEPT I saw it as "Did you know that 99% of all statistics are made up on the spot?" annette :-) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Beth Benoit wrote: > Thought this fun "fact" might get a chuckle in class, especially in Statistics > and > Methods classes: > > Did you know

RE: Statistics statistic

1999-10-27 Thread David Wasieleski, Ph.D.
t;From: Rick Froman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 11:55 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Statistics statistic > > >Beth Benoit writes on 27 Oct 99,: > >> Thought this fun "fact" might get a chuckle in class, especially in >>

RE: Statistics statistic

1999-10-27 Thread Dennis Goff
ssage- From: Rick Froman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Statistics statistic Beth Benoit writes on 27 Oct 99,: > Thought this fun "fact" might get a chuckle in class, especially in > Statistics and Methods class

Re: Statistics statistic

1999-10-27 Thread Rick Froman
Beth Benoit writes on 27 Oct 99,: > Thought this fun "fact" might get a chuckle in class, especially in > Statistics and Methods classes: > > Did you know that 47.8% of all statistics are made up on the spot? > > Beth Benoit > University of Massachusetts Lowell I think the correct ;-} number

Re: Statistics Textbooks (Summary)

1999-06-08 Thread Dr. Joyce Johnson
I guess I missed this query. I don't see my text on the list. I use Brace & Brace Understandable STatistics. I like it. At 11:37 AM 6/8/99 -0400, Mark Sciutto wrote: >I would like to thank everyone who responded to my request re: stats textbooks (even though I mistakenly left the subject field

Re: Statistics course with Excel

1999-06-07 Thread Erica Klein
At 06:30 PM 6/7/99 -0500, you wrote: >I, too, have used Minitab. One thing about choosing Minitab: 20 years ago, as an undergrad, I learned Minitab. In the intervening years I spent a decade in the information technology field using a variety of tools and languages. No one who ever interviewe

Re: Statistics course with Excel

1999-06-07 Thread Dr. Joyce Johnson
I, too, have used Minitab. The student version was reasonably priced. Our Info Tech folks set up our stats lab so that each student had a password to enter their Minitab student program. We did this so that we could abide by the site licensing that the program was used only by a single student. Un

Re: Statistics course with Excel

1999-06-07 Thread David
> On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Steve Milliser went: > I am looking into using Microsoft Excel in my introductory > level statistics course in the Fall. Here's my concern. About a year ago, on one of the stats newsgroups, someone posted an easily replicable demonstration showing that, for large numbers,

Re: Statistics course with Excel

1999-06-07 Thread Jim Clark
Hi On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Steve Milliser wrote: > I am looking into using Microsoft Excel in my introductory > level statistics course in the Fall. Have any of you tried > doing this or do you know of a friend/colleague who has? There was a _huge_ debate on this several years ago on one of the st

Re: statistics

1999-05-10 Thread Dr. Barbara Watters
James and other TIPSters, In my statistics course, I cover everything on your list in 10 weeks, although the nonparametrics tend to be neglected at the end (something I'm going to fix, next time around). I highly recommend SPSS for Windows as an element of your course. I use it, but I do not in

RE: Statistics Website - help!

1999-03-19 Thread Paul C. Smith
Nancy - It was http://trochim.human.cornell.edu/ sent to us courtesy Mike Scoles (thanks, Mike - it _really_ looks like a good site). Thanks as well to Ron Blue for that NIH/NIMH site with the brain movies. Once again, TIPS at its best. Paul Smith Alverno College > -Original Messag