Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Carol
Nice answer! Carol Phone mail > On Feb 8, 2016, at 10:15 PM, Mike Palij wrote: > >> On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 12:57:00 -0800, Stuart McKelvie wrote: >> Dear Tipsters, >> >> I like D. O. Hebb's distinction between sensation and >> perception as a way of distinguishing bottom-up and >> top-down proces

RE:[tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Mike Palij
On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 12:57:00 -0800, Stuart McKelvie wrote: Dear Tipsters, I like D. O. Hebb's distinction between sensation and perception as a way of distinguishing bottom-up and top-down processing. One thing to keep in mind is that the "bottom-up" versus "top-down" distinction originates in

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Michael Scoles
My first guess is that the observer normally moves. On Feb 8, 2016 6:39 PM, "Michael Scoles" wrote: > > > He has a chapter on it. Not sure which book, but it is in my office. > I'll try to remember to look it up in the morning. > On Feb 8, 2016 4:59 PM, "Jim Clark" wrote: > >> >> And how would

[tips] New SAT

2016-02-08 Thread Stuart McKelvie
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Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Michael Scoles
He has a chapter on it. Not sure which book, but it is in my office. I'll try to remember to look it up in the morning. On Feb 8, 2016 4:59 PM, "Jim Clark" wrote: > > And how would Gibson explain ambiguous stimuli where the identical input > gives rise to different interpretations? > > Jim > Se

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Jim Clark
Hi Because scientists consider all possible explanations/mechanisms to determine which one is correct. Also templates might be involved, for example in exemplar models, or even in early learning before prototypes are developed. Jim Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2016, at 3:35 PM, "Annette

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Jim Clark
And how would Gibson explain ambiguous stimuli where the identical input gives rise to different interpretations? Jim Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2016, at 3:51 PM, "Michael Scoles" mailto:micha...@uca.edu>> wrote: Gibson would argue that, unless by "past experience" you mean biological e

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Michael Scoles
Gibson would argue that, unless by "past experience" you mean biological evolution in environments that structure energy, the necessary information for perception is readily available from that structure (e.g., texture gradients, kinetic optical occlusion). On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Stuart M

Re: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Carol DeVolder
Hi Annette, I would argue that both bottom-up and top-down work together and are both ways of describing things from different perspectives. We assemble the sensations into a whole--for example, in vision we assemble the size, shape, movement (or lack thereof), color, and other components into a co

RE:[tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Stuart McKelvie
Dear Tipsters, I like D. O. Hebb's distinction between sensation and perception as a way of distinguishing bottom-up and top-down processing. Hebb defines sensation as activity in the sense organ and corresponding sensory receiving areas of the brain. You can easily illustrate this with a diagr

[tips] bottom up processing in humans

2016-02-08 Thread Annette Taylor
I am having a bit of a hard time this year answering questions about bottom up processing. Student question: How can it be truly bottom up if it requires a comparison to a stored image? Isn't that like top-down? You use the stored image to recognize what it is that is coming in. How are these a