FW: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-23 Thread Jim Clark
Clark Subject: RE: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps Jim: Maybe I'm not interpreting it correctly, but that equation looks off. Would it not be the case that higher old scores (e.g., 90 versus 70) would be converted

Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
I have an idea. Every class meeting is nothing but exam and assessment from start to finish. More must be better, right? More seriously: do we know the optimum ratio of testing to learning objectives covered? At what point are there diminishing returns? Paul Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21,

Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Gerald Peterson
I am a fan of more frequent testing, but what do folks think about the authors' contortions and post hoc fishing to find that their daily quiz class was comparatively better? If regular testing and retesting is effective, it ought to be easier to show greater comprehension and mastery of the

Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Paul Brandon
I used a PSI system (self-paced unit mastery) for many (~40) years. Since there was no final exam I couldn't assess comprehension and mastery that way (and then there's the question of whether a MC question can assess complex cognitive behavior anyway). I did have another alternative, however.

Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Christopher Green
I'm thinking: recent effect. If you only test what you taught today, but not what you taught six or twelve weeks ago, of course you'll get better results. Chris - Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M6C 1G4 Canada chri...@yorku.ca On Nov 22, 2013, at

Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Paul Brandon
But are you testing what you taught several weeks ago, or what students crammed the night before from the text and their lecture notes. On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Christopher Green wrote: I'm thinking: recent effect. If you only test what you taught today, but not what you taught six or

RE: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Jim Clark
, November 22, 2013 12:01 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps But are you testing what you taught several weeks ago, or what students crammed the night before

Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
Part of what's interesting is they are testing before class starts, and there is always at least one question from weeks previous. I think that's a good approach. The first 10-minutes of each class were devoted to an 8-item daily quiz. Seven of the questions covered material from the previous

Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
There are a lot of interesting statements in this paper. I love this one: The purpose of the curve was to reduce the number of students who failed the first exams – a standard practice in American universities. Standard practice? Common practice, certainly, but far from standard. And, methods

Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Paul Brandon
Stats mavens-- How many students do you need to justify the assumption of a normal (or other) distribution of measures of performance? On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote: There are a lot of interesting statements in this paper. I love this one: The purpose of the curve

RE: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Stuart McKelvie
in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps Stats mavens-- How many students do you need to justify the assumption of a normal (or other) distribution of measures of performance? On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Paul C Bernhardt wrote: There are a lot

RE: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-22 Thread Jim Clark
(TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps There are a lot of interesting statements in this paper. I love this one: The purpose of the curve was to reduce the number of students who failed the first

[tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-21 Thread Christopher Green
As though you didn't have enough people telling you how to teach already. Still, interesting finding. http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0079774?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+plosone%2FPLoSONE+%28PLOS+ONE+Alerts%3A+New+Articles%29

RE: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps

2013-11-21 Thread Jim Clark
From: Christopher Green [chri...@yorku.ca] Sent: November-21-13 8:12 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] PLOS ONE: Daily Online Testing in Large Classes: Boosting College Performance while Reducing Achievement Gaps As though you didn't have enough people