RE: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Rick Froman
in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning? It removed a consequence that wasn't there? I met a man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today. I wish, I wish he'd go away. On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Rick Fr

Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Paul Brandon
I believe that the Hull-Spence learning theorists used ‘reinforcement’ that way (don’t know if they still do ;-). On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Ken Steele wrote: > > On 10/21/2015 2:59 PM, Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. wrote: >> One other thing: the term "reinforcement" was used in the film. It would >

Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Michael Scoles
Original Message- > From: Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. [mailto:jeff.ric...@scottsdalecc.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:00 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) < > tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu> > Subject: Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant&qu

Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Paul Brandon
Like the fact that the Russian that was originally translated as ‘conditioned’ is better translated as ‘conditional’. So a ‘conditional reflex’ is one that is conditional upon a pairing with another reflex. On Oct 21, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. wrote: > > On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:2

Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Paul Brandon
The ‘voluntary/involuntary’ and ‘operant/respondent’ labels seem to identify the same classes of events. A reminder — in behavior analysis, ‘operant’ and ‘respondent’ refer to functions, not events. The same behavior can (and in this case does) appear to have both respondent and operant function

RE: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Rick Froman
. [mailto:jeff.ric...@scottsdalecc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:00 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning? On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Michael Scoles wrote: > What would happen if the child d

Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Ken Steele
On 10/21/2015 2:59 PM, Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. wrote: One other thing: the term "reinforcement" was used in the film. It would have had to be translated into English from the original Russian subtitles, which makes me wonder if the term could have been translated in different ways. Jeff Reinfo

Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D.
On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Michael Scoles wrote: > What would happen if the child did not open his mouth? The problem seems > similar to distinguishing between voluntary and involuntary (conditioned) > eyeblinks in humans. Yes, I agree. I had to get to class, so I couldn't include some ot

Re: [tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Michael Scoles
What would happen if the child did not open his mouth? The problem seems similar to distinguishing between voluntary and involuntary (conditioned) eyeblinks in humans. On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. < jeff.ric...@scottsdalecc.edu> wrote: > I’ve been watching a film of Pav

[tips] Pavlovian "Operant" Conditioning?

2015-10-21 Thread Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D.
I’ve been watching a film of Pavlov’s conditioning experiments that was (I believe) taken in his lab. I was surprised to discover that, in an experiment on a child, they seemed to be studying what eventually came to be called “operant conditioning,” not “Pavlovian conditioning.” I know that earl