RE: [tips] Null hypothesis

2011-06-21 Thread Wuensch, Karl L
If you are talking about a point (sharp) null hypothesis, true (unless, of course, you have the entire population of scores on hand), -- but testing point null hypotheses is pretty silly anyway. If we must test null hypotheses, they should be range (loose) null hypothesis - that is

Re: [tips] Null hypothesis

2011-06-16 Thread John Kulig
close second. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -Original Message- From: Marc Carter Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:18:45 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Reply-To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" Subject: RE: [tips] Nul

RE: [tips] Null hypothesis

2011-06-16 Thread Marc Carter
:pcbernha...@frostburg.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:52 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Null hypothesis Unfortunately, it seems to me that textbooks are drifting all over the place on this issue. Our currently selected textbook for statistics uses &q

Re: [tips] Null hypothesis

2011-06-16 Thread Paul C Bernhardt
Unfortunately, it seems to me that textbooks are drifting all over the place on this issue. Our currently selected textbook for statistics uses "retain the null hypothesis" in the case where it is not rejected. I've decided not to argue with the textbook, because I feel I have bigger fish to f

RE: [tips] Null hypothesis

2011-06-16 Thread Bourgeois, Dr. Martin
t: RE: [tips] Null hypothesis I teach my students there are two possible outcomes to a null hypothesis test: reject or fail to reject. That said, if you have power in the area of .99, then you might have good reason to believe the null is true. But you still don't "accept" it.

RE: [tips] Null hypothesis

2011-06-16 Thread Marc Carter
I teach my students there are two possible outcomes to a null hypothesis test: reject or fail to reject. That said, if you have power in the area of .99, then you might have good reason to believe the null is true. But you still don't "accept" it. Bayesians, as I am learning, might have a whol