Re: [TLS] TLS Impact on Network Security draft updated

2019-07-24 Thread Stephen Farrell
I'm not in favour of adoption or discussion of this draft on the WG list. I'm also against publishing it in the IETF stream. It's a waste of everyone's time. I hope the chairs take the opportunity to close this thread soon. On 24/07/2019 04:13, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > the Independent stream of th

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate

2019-07-24 Thread Chris Inacio
Favor of adoption. On July 24, 2019 at 8:49:22 AM, Christopher Wood (c...@heapingbits.net) wrote: At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate as a WG item. The draft can be found here: https://datatracker.iet

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-nir-tls-tlsflags

2019-07-24 Thread Nick Sullivan
I am in favor of adoption. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:47 AM Christopher Wood wrote: > At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt > draft-nir-tls-tlsflags as a WG item. The draft can be found here: > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-tls-tlsflags/ > > This email starts t

Re: [TLS] The TLS WG has placed draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2019-07-24 Thread Töma Gavrichenkov
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:42 PM IETF Secretariat wrote: > The TLS WG has placed draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate in state > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Sean Turner) I support the adoption. -- Töma ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.o

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-nir-tls-tlsflags

2019-07-24 Thread Thomas Fossati
On 24/07/2019, 13:47, "TLS on behalf of Christopher Wood" wrote: > > At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt > draft-nir-tls-tlsflags as a WG item. The draft can be found here: > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-tls-tlsflags/ > > This email starts the call for adopti

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-nir-tls-tlsflags

2019-07-24 Thread Watson Ladd
I support adoption. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 5:47 AM Christopher Wood wrote: > At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt > draft-nir-tls-tlsflags as a WG item. The draft can be found here: > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-tls-tlsflags/ > > This email starts the call f

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-nir-tls-tlsflags

2019-07-24 Thread Martin Thomson
I like this work. It needs work, but I would like to help do that work. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, at 09:16, Eric Rescorla wrote: > I am in favor of adopting this. > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:47 AM Christopher Wood wrote: > > At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt > > draft-nir-t

Re: [TLS] The TLS WG has placed draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2019-07-24 Thread Daniel Migault
I support the adoption of the draft. Yours, Daniel On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:42 AM IETF Secretariat < ietf-secretariat-re...@ietf.org> wrote: > > The TLS WG has placed draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate in state > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Sean Turner) > > The document is a

Re: [TLS] Draft minutes for Tuesday

2019-07-24 Thread Patton,Christopher J
Hey martin, > Firefox nightly now has the preference > "security.tls.enable_delegated_credentials" > in about:config. I wouldn't recommend turning that on on a permanent basis, > but > you can now use a browser to drive this. Is there any indication in the UI that a DC was negotiated? Thanks,

Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nir-tls-tlsflags-02.txt

2019-07-24 Thread Martin Thomson
Hi Yoav, Thanks for doing this. I personally prefer the flag choice you have. I think that you need to move from CH,SH,EE (which has a weird duplication that might be problematic), to CH, EE, CR, C. Critically, I don't think that you want the ServerHello to carry any of these. Flags are gene

[TLS] The TLS WG has placed draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2019-07-24 Thread IETF Secretariat
The TLS WG has placed draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Sean Turner) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate/ ___ TLS mailing lis

[TLS] The TLS WG has placed draft-nir-tls-tlsflags in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2019-07-24 Thread IETF Secretariat
The TLS WG has placed draft-nir-tls-tlsflags in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Sean Turner) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-tls-tlsflags/ ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate

2019-07-24 Thread Eric Rescorla
I am in favor of adopting this document. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:49 AM Christopher Wood wrote: > At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt > draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate as a WG item. The draft can be > found here: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lvelvind

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-nir-tls-tlsflags

2019-07-24 Thread Eric Rescorla
I am in favor of adopting this. On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:47 AM Christopher Wood wrote: > At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt > draft-nir-tls-tlsflags as a WG item. The draft can be found here: > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-tls-tlsflags/ > > This email sta

Re: [TLS] TLS Impact on Network Security draft updated

2019-07-24 Thread Salz, Rich
* This should not be dismissed as small segments of industries.This represents ubiquitous use cases at all large organizations in Insurance, Health Care, Banking, Automotive and many others. All generalization are false, including the claim that these are ubiquitous uses at all large or

Re: [TLS] Draft minutes for Tuesday

2019-07-24 Thread Martin Thomson
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, at 21:09, Watson Ladd wrote: > One note: kc2kdm.com is up and working with NSS clients. Please hit it! Firefox nightly now has the preference "security.tls.enable_delegated_credentials" in about:config. I wouldn't recommend turning that on on a permanent basis, but you can

[TLS] Adoption call for draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate

2019-07-24 Thread Christopher Wood
At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate as a WG item. The draft can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate/ This email starts the call for adoption. It will run until August 7, 2019. P

[TLS] Adoption call for draft-nir-tls-tlsflags

2019-07-24 Thread Christopher Wood
At TLS@IETF105, there was interest in the room to adopt draft-nir-tls-tlsflags as a WG item. The draft can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-tls-tlsflags/ This email starts the call for adoption. It will run until August 7, 2019. Please indicate whether or not you wou

Re: [TLS] TLS Impact on Network Security draft updated

2019-07-24 Thread Hubert Kario
On Wednesday, 24 July 2019 05:17:37 CEST Ackermann, Michael wrote: > This should not be dismissed as small segments of industries.This > represents ubiquitous use cases at all large organizations in Insurance, > Health Care, Banking, Automotive and many others. Not "all" and not "ubiquitous",

Re: [TLS] TLS Impact on Network Security draft updated

2019-07-24 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 05:19:46AM +0100, Dennis Jackson wrote: > > > On 24/07/2019 04:13, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 03:35:43AM +0100, Dennis Jackson wrote: > >> On 24/07/2019 02:55, Bret Jordan wrote: > >>> As a professional organization and part of due diligence, we need