[TLS] weird DHE params p length in TLSv1.2

2023-10-16 Thread M K Saravanan
Hi, I found a weird packet capture of DHE key exchange. C --> S TLSv1.2 cipher suite used: TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (0x009f) ServerKeyExchange message is sending: p length: 257 whereas pubkey length is: 256 256 means 256*8 = 2048 bit DHE key size. I am assuming, generally when usin

Re: [TLS] New Internet Draft: The qpack_static_table_version TLS extension

2023-10-16 Thread Martin J . Dürst
Hello Rory, Sorry for not answering earlier. Many thanks for your detailed response. One main additional comment inline below, about the utility and frequency of new versions. On 2023-10-06 01:34, Rory Hewitt wrote: Hey Martin, Some ordered response which roughly match up to your comments,

Re: [TLS] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-davidben-tls-key-share-prediction-00.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Rob Sayre
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 5:52 PM Andrei Popov wrote: > >- But how are you going to detect whether there's a crappy TCP/IP >stack or an attack? You can't. > > Understood. This is a general problem with insecure client-side fallbacks. > Sure, but I think the aim is to say that the server do

Re: [TLS] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-davidben-tls-key-share-prediction-00.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Andrei Popov
* But how are you going to detect whether there's a crappy TCP/IP stack or an attack? You can't. Understood. This is a general problem with insecure client-side fallbacks. It is unclear what this draft is trying to achieve: * Is this draft paving the way for TLS clients to advertise PQC

Re: [TLS] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-davidben-tls-key-share-prediction-00.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Rob Sayre
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 3:51 PM Andrei Popov wrote: > >- Where these interpretations conflict, the selection may be >downgraded, potentially even under attacker influence. > > Downgrade by attacker is only possible if the client attempts insecure > fallback (e.g., offer PQ key share, conn

Re: [TLS] [EXTERNAL] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-davidben-tls-key-share-prediction-00.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Andrei Popov
* Where these interpretations conflict, the selection may be downgraded, potentially even under attacker influence. Downgrade by attacker is only possible if the client attempts insecure fallback (e.g., offer PQ key share, connection failed, retry without PQ key share)? Or am I missing some o

Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-davidben-tls-key-share-prediction-00.txt

2023-10-16 Thread Rob Sayre
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:18 AM David Benjamin wrote: > I've thus rephrased it in terms of just one group, which I think is much > tidier. How does this look to you? > > https://github.com/davidben/tls-key-share-prediction/commit/310fa7bbddd1fe0c81e3a6865a59880efc901b33 > I agree with the senti

[TLS] Fwd: Mail regarding draft-rsalz-tls-tls12-frozen

2023-10-16 Thread Kamran Awan
Hi TLS Team, Do you have any update that TLS 1.2 is getting expired or any EOL announcement we have? I see document RFC 5246 (Snap attached) where you mention obsoleted by RFC 8446? I need update that according to your RFC draft TLS 1.2 (draft-rsalz-tls-tls12-frozen) is frozen (Already clarify

Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-davidben-tls-key-share-prediction-00.txt

2023-10-16 Thread David Benjamin
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 1:29 AM Rob Sayre wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 8:43 AM David Benjamin > wrote: > >> Tossed onto GitHub and removed the discussion of authenticated records >> in >> https://github.com/davidben/tls-key-share-prediction/commit/cabd76f7b320ab4f970f396db3d962ca9f510875 >>