Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-31 Thread David Rees
Bill Barker wrote: Antonio Fiol Bonnín [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I am worried about what you say about Apache 2.0.x and the 'worker' MPM. Could you please tell me about the real-world inconveniences of having 3/4 Apache 1.3.X with 2/3 tomcats behind? The mod_jk loadbalancer doesn't work

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-31 Thread Bill Barker
David Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Barker wrote: Antonio Fiol Bonnín [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I am worried about what you say about Apache 2.0.x and the 'worker' MPM. Could you please tell me about the real-world inconveniences of having

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-31 Thread David Rees
Bill Barker wrote: I'm curious, what are the issues with loadbalancing in mod_jk with a pre-forking Apache? Basically it comes down to the fact that the children don't talk to one another, so each one has its own idea of the relative loads. This usually results in a distribution (for the

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-30 Thread Antonio Fiol Bonnín
Kwok Peng Tuck wrote: I'm no expert in load balancing and stuff like that, but shouldn't you load balance tomcat as well ? If I could do everything I wanted to... No. I am trying, but I cannot do that yet. Budget is not ready and purchase timings are far too long. Thanks anyway. Antonio

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-30 Thread Antonio Fiol Bonnn
john d. haro wrote: What is the load on your web servers? Very low. Could you repurpose a web server and load balance the app server instead? Web servers are light machines (uniprocessor, low memory, ...), while app server is a heavyweight (two nice fast processors, 4Gb RAM, ...). Web

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-30 Thread Antonio Fiol Bonnín
Bill Barker wrote: In theory, I'd go with Kwok's recommendation: one Apache with it's own load-balancer, and 3 Tomcats instead of 3 Apaches. However, in the real-world, this would require you to upgrade to Apache 2.0.x with the 'worker' MPM. We cannot repurpose machines. Three web servers (a

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-30 Thread Bill Barker
Antonio Fiol Bonnín [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Barker wrote: In theory, I'd go with Kwok's recommendation: one Apache with it's own load-balancer, and 3 Tomcats instead of 3 Apaches. However, in the real-world, this would require you to upgrade to

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-29 Thread Bill Barker
In theory, I'd go with Kwok's recommendation: one Apache with it's own load-balancer, and 3 Tomcats instead of 3 Apaches. However, in the real-world, this would require you to upgrade to Apache 2.0.x with the 'worker' MPM. Yes, for your current config, you need to have your maxProcessors

RE: Production server tuning

2003-07-29 Thread john d. haro
. Good luck John Haro -Original Message- From: Kwok Peng Tuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:47 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Production server tuning I'm no expert in load balancing and stuff like that, but shouldn't you load balance tomcat as well

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-29 Thread srevilak
From: Antonio Fiol Bonnín fiol.bonnin () terra ! es Subject: Production server tuning For the first case, I reckon I might have found the cause: Apache MaxClients is set to 200, and Tomcat maxProcessors was set to something about 150. Taking into account that there are 3 Apache, that means

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-29 Thread John Turner
This is good info. Thanks for posting!! John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Antonio Fiol Bonnín fiol.bonnin () terra ! es Subject: Production server tuning For the first case, I reckon I might have found the cause: Apache MaxClients is set to 200, and Tomcat maxProcessors was set

Production server tuning

2003-07-28 Thread Antonio Fiol Bonnín
Hello, We have already gone live, and we actually spend too much time dead. I hope some of you can help me a bit about the problems we have. Architecture: 3 Apache web servers (1.3.23) behind a replicated load balancer in DMZ 1 Tomcat server (4.1.9) behind firewall, in secure zone. 1 Firewall

Re: Production server tuning

2003-07-28 Thread Kwok Peng Tuck
I'm no expert in load balancing and stuff like that, but shouldn't you load balance tomcat as well ? Antonio Fiol Bonnín wrote: Hello, We have already gone live, and we actually spend too much time dead. I hope some of you can help me a bit about the problems we have. Architecture: 3 Apache