Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-30 Thread Kolossos
Hello, If I think positive, I have the hope that we can move relatively shortly the 20% of tools to labs that are producing 80% of our load. So than we should come back in a stable situation on toolserver with acceptabel performance. This "stable time" we can use than to run tools until they a

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-30 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Silke Meyer wrote: > Dear toolserver crowd, especially dear WMDE members among you! > tldr; > I am asking the WMDE members committed to the toolserver: What can be > a satisfactory state of the server given this strange situation of > transition? > [...] I would start with fixing the current s

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-29 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/29/2013 03:12 AM, Maarten Dammers wrote: > Moving to early gives bad user experience and gives disappointed users > who turn their back on it (like me). That may well be the case; I have been careful to invite early adopters who had tools that had full support for now (i.e. do not require DB

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-29 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi Marc, Op 29-4-2013 1:22, Marc A. Pelletier schreef: On 04/28/2013 07:15 PM, DaB. wrote: Even more useful would have been a "We improved since last time, please come and check again". Well, I /do/ take some pains to post regular updates, on labs-l and here as well. :-) Watch for emails fro

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-28 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/28/2013 07:15 PM, DaB. wrote: > Even more useful would have been a "We improved since last time, please come > and check again". Well, I /do/ take some pains to post regular updates, on labs-l and here as well. :-) Watch for emails from me (generally on Mondays) on those lists. Also, [1]

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-28 Thread DaB.
Hello, At Monday 29 April 2013 01:11:46 DaB. wrote: > On 04/28/2013 04:42 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote: > > I tried labs and I hate it, if someone tries to force it on my now I'll > > just shut down my tools and leave. > > Even more useful would be a list of actual issues you've encountered, so > tha

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-28 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/28/2013 04:42 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote: > I tried labs and I hate it, if someone tries to force it on my now I'll > just shut down my tools and leave. Even more useful would be a list of actual issues you've encountered, so that we may address them in the future. That said, "far from ready

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-28 Thread Maarten Dammers
Op 27-4-2013 18:00, DaB. schreef: Hello, At Saturday 27 April 2013 17:19:29 DaB. wrote: To cut a long story short: I am not sure what you expect me to do in this situation. Please clarify! I don't want to deal with a task without a clear task. as a WMDE-member and toolserver-admin I would like

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-27 Thread K. Peachey
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Silke Meyer wrote: > * When does the toolserver no longer accept new accounts? Tool Labs > shall be ready in weeks. Once it's there, I think it would be fair to > send new people to Tool Labs right away. OH? They finally have the cross db-join situation sorted? W

Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-27 Thread DaB.
Hello, At Saturday 27 April 2013 17:19:29 DaB. wrote: > To cut a long story short: I am not sure what you expect me to do in > this situation. Please clarify! I don't want to deal with a task > without a clear task. as a WMDE-member and toolserver-admin I would like to answer you. I expect you to

[Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-25 Thread Silke Meyer
Dear toolserver crowd, especially dear WMDE members among you! tldr; I am asking the WMDE members committed to the toolserver: What can be a satisfactory state of the server given this strange situation of transition? A few thoughts about the current state of the toolserver. This e-mail is born b