Re: Topband: BOG antenna

2013-06-12 Thread N1TA
Hi Bruce, I have a simple switchable coaxial BOG running NE-SW. I have often noticed that it is not bothered much by rain. In fact, I would consider this a valid selling point of the BOG. Having said that, even on a rainy day, the longer 2-wire beverage up about 5' still hears slightly better

Re: Topband: BOG antenna

2013-06-12 Thread Tom W8JI
I have a simple switchable coaxial BOG running NE-SW. I have often noticed that it is not bothered much by rain. In fact, I would consider this a valid selling point of the BOG. Having said that, even on a rainy day, the longer 2-wire beverage up about 5' still hears slightly better (even with

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Jim GM
Very fine Jim. What kind of gain readings are you getting now? Christman phasing is at 71 degrees? I was thinking 90 degree phasing. Whats the reasoning for this? -- Jim K9TF All good topband ops know how to put up a beverage at night. _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Jim GM
I have seen some thing like those military surplus mast sections. I believe the ones I saw were made by Shakespear. I think this is the same company that made those good trout fishing rods and reels like the one I have. Sounds like your gearing up for Field Day. If so where are you going to

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Shoppa, Tim
Read and envy: http://shakespeare-military.com/masts.asp They take Visa and Mastercard! Tim N3QE -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim GM Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 1:19 PM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Tom W8JI
Christman phasing is at 71 degrees? I was thinking 90 degree phasing. Whats the reasoning for this? Optimum phasing of two verticals 1/4 wave apart is never 90 degrees, unless the user for some reason wants a single-point zero-angle null and less than maximum gain. Optimum element current

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/12/2013 11:58 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: Christman phasing is at 71 degrees? I was thinking 90 degree phasing. Whats the reasoning for this? Optimum phasing of two verticals 1/4 wave apart is never 90 degrees, unless the user for some reason wants a single-point zero-angle null and less than

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Charlie Cunningham
I guess 90 degree phase shift might result in a cardioid pattern? Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom W8JI Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:58 PM To: topband Subject: Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/12/2013 10:18 AM, Jim GM wrote: Sounds like your gearing up for Field Day. If so where are you going to set up? With the K6MI Chews Ridge Gang, about 50 miles E of Monterey, CA. We do QRP battery. 73, Jim K9YC All good topband ops know how to put up a beverage at night.

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/12/2013 10:10 AM, Jim GM wrote: What kind of gain readings are you getting now? We didn't measure gain, but we did measure F/B. Gain is rather difficult to pin down. Even F/B is tricky -- there was at least 6dB of QSB on the rear setup (with the 71 degree line traded to the other

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Tom W8JI
Right. There's some discussion of this in the ON4UN book, where I found the Christman matching. As published there, it's 84 degrees of 50 ohm line in each element, plus 71 degrees of 50 ohm line in the element facing the desired forward direction,change directions by switching the 71 degree

Re: Topband: My Turn For a Brain Pick - Sanity Check

2013-06-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/12/2013 3:34 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: I can't think of a reason to pick 90 degrees as a target value, unless it is a system designed to protect something on groundwave that happens to be straight in line with the elements. I agree. For me, the primary design objectives are maximizing forward