I think setting up your personal station at home for remote is OK as it is
your station equipment and your antennas. Commercialized RHR is a whole
different ball game to me. To me it is a business and for every station
receiving money for the use of such stations RHR needs to report that
income to
Amen.
On 2015-07-12 16:28, Dave Heil wrote:
Bill,
There was no competition among those who walked to school, no matter
what the distance. There were no awards, annual listings, pins,
certificates, plaques or such.
The internet is akin to telephones and cable television more than to
amateur ra
Ken,
I hear what you are trying to convey but there is a fly in the ointment.
I am not trying to impress anyone else. For me it is and always has been a
personal achievement.
No one here is concerned with diminishing their abilities to impress others as
you have stated.
These "issues" you ca
Hi Jim,
I'm getting into some 'age related' neurological decline too and I'm
interested, too. If you try those keys and they help please let us know.
I'm sure you and I are NOT the only ones! The most noticeable decline
involving my fingers comes when I double click the computer mouse or use
At the risk of sounding like a party pooper - I think the remote thread has
gotten stuck into the same rut this discussion typically ends up on - and
is no longer really relevant to the main focus on this list (topband).
This is a very emotional issue for many - and isn't something we are going
to
No issue with that...remote operation of your primary station...I don't see any
difference between that and local operation of the same station...even if you
had worked some DX...great use of the technology.
Cecil
K5DL
Sent using recycled electrons.
> On Jul 12, 2015, at 8:41 PM, WW3S wrote:
Since everyone seems to be on board I thought I'd ask a question about one part
of Ham Radio we all love-keys. Has anyone tried or been using one of these
touch keys (no moving parts) etc.. I have various types of keys but the hands
don't work like they did at one time, especially in the Winte
is there a length limit on microphone cords, or key cords? Because for several
remote stations, thats what you are talking about.I’m currently in Leesburg
VA, over 300 miles from home.but I still operated MY station on and off
this weekend, with MY antennas, MY power supplies, MY technol
If DXCC is destroyed there sure are a ton of people that failed to get
that message.
The ARRL is in the business
of..selling awards..
The Centennial QSO party was pure marketing genius. How many people got
involved to buy another award
All I can say is working the P5 was awesome to me for the last one. The
pileups were horrendous, the postage bills too much, but I loved every
minute through the years. And I did love the plaque. I did this to see what
I could do, not to compete with someone else. Some think it's a waste of
time bu
Remote stations should be operated in the assisted class during contests..
As far as DXCC, how about an endorsement for all stations who earned it
using only their local station?
My $0.02
Art NK8X
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On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Doug Renwick wrote:
> I consider it another form of cheating
I consider it another form of cheating. Regardless of what the ARRL says.
Since when has the ARRL - DXCC been a bastion of ethics? IMO ARRL ethics is
an oxymoron.
Without inserting politics into the discussion, all one has to do is look at
what is going in the world around us and it is clear the
Why don't we have the drivers of the Indy 500 operate their cars with
joysticks in the stands or somewhere far, far away? Same thing as remote,
right? This is not my radio
My 2 cents.
73 Hardy N7RT
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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of C
Well for one thing your $100,000 station doesn't magically appear anywhere in
the country just by selecting a new location on the computer screen because
where it's located at the moment ain't getting the job donebig difference!
I don't have any problem with remote ham radio for general ham
Well folks, I have just about had it with this thread and the group. I had
joined the group to possibly help my knowledge of operating and building
equipment and antennas for 80 and 160 meters, not to be bombarded with a ton of
messages of how the entire ham community feels about what is becomi
What matters? Technology.
Engine on a sail boat, Cessna vs. glider, biker vs. runner and
"competing" in the same category. (According to ham radio "logic")
DXCC was destroyed by lists and nets wy bck.
Now contesting, results, record tables are being destroyed by Internet,
remotes an
So much for civility.
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of W0MU
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:57 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: The Remote question
So what is the difference if I build a station for $100,000 or I rent
So what is the difference if I build a station for $100,000 or I rent
one for whatever it costs? Nothing. I guess the guy that can't climb
towers who has to pay someone else to climb it and fix his stuff should
be shoved into another category too?
I must have missed what is the big prize for
KE1F Lou
Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S®4. By KE1F
Original message
From: Roger D Johnson
Date: 07/12/2015 3:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Top Band Reflector
Subject: Topband: DXCC etc
I just did a quick perusal of the current DXCC rules
Bill,
There was no competition among those who walked to school, no matter
what the distance. There were no awards, annual listings, pins,
certificates, plaques or such.
The internet is akin to telephones and cable television more than to
amateur radio. If you're making your way to Topband
It's obvious the DXCC award system is not important to you by your own
admission, which doesn't put you in the best of positions to be so vocal about
paid/shared remote station access and its impact on the award systems.
Call it what you will it's very competitive...in an individualized sort of
Hahwell done, Larry!!! Always envious of people who can take a
topical subkect area and give it a comedic but germane twistgood on ya!!
72 de Jim R. K9JWV
> From: w...@sbcglobal.net
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:13:17 -0500
> Subject: Topband: New C
Folks:
"Commercial Remote?" Far from it. I am a traditional Top Band DX chaser since
2007, formerly operating with very good success from an apartment with a 600W
station and a full-sized inverted L. I have been an HF and above DX chaser
over nearly 40 years of hamming, and more recently an a
Maybe a new licensing incentive is in order to get the numbers up...
Pass your General and get your DXCC thrown in (first 100).
Pass your Extra and you go at the bottom of the Honor Roll.
Incentive still remains...work your way to Honor Roll as a General or upgrade
and then work your way up the
I think much of the issue with RHR is people are bent out of shape that
a group of people have jumped on this and appear to be doing quite
well. Business must be booming as they are adding new stations constantly.
Personally I have a decent station and am not interested in renting
station tim
I just did a quick perusal of the current DXCC rules. If I understand them
correctly:
1. Another ham can operate my station, using my call, and the contacts count
towards my DXCC.
2. I can go to his station, sign my call, and the contacts count towards my
DXCC.
So...the station doesn't matter
Well said Dave!
On 7/12/2015 10:49 AM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
The reaction of the DXing community to new technology over the years has been
extremely interesting to observe. Some ops are early
adopters, applying every bleeding-edge technology available that isn't explicitly
prohibited by "the rules
You had me going for a few minutes!
Are you going to send this again on April 1, 2016? ;-)
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Larry Burke wrote:
> VERIZON WIRELESS TO OFFER REMOTE AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE
>
>
>
> BASKING RIDGE, NJ (Roytours) - The nation's largest wireless com
VERIZON WIRELESS TO OFFER REMOTE AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE
BASKING RIDGE, NJ (Roytours) - The nation's largest wireless company
announced today that it plans to enter the remote ham radio station business
to serve amateur radio operators. Verizon Wireless, a wholly owned
subsidiary of Verizon Commu
The reaction of the DXing community to new technology over the years has been
extremely interesting to observe. Some ops are early
adopters, applying every bleeding-edge technology available that isn't
explicitly prohibited by "the rules". At the other extreme
are ops who effectively camp on the
Steve, the perspective of an award chasing RHR user who also has a well
equipped home station has been missing from the discussion. Thanks for
providing it. There are others who share your views. The availability of the
paid remotes, either in geographically advantageous locations and or usi
"...Will the last guy who actually emits RF from his station please remember to
turn off the rig..".
Why bother ? There'll be nobody listening !
73 de Mort, SV5/G2JL
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Hi Mike,
There really is a difference among all the people who walked to school
and back every school day for 12 years or so. Some of them lived across
the street and others lived ten miles away, uphill both ways grin>. I do see that somebody who did all of a DX challenge from their
home locat
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your comments. I may seem like a true heretic being on this
list. I'm not a *real* contester and even less a *real* DXer. I do have
QSOs with DX stations on several bands. But I don't reject QSOs with
U.S. or Canadian stations (Canada is only a small handful of miles from
Sad indeed to see the post this morning. The idiom “the means justify the end”
is true in this case for sure. I guess eventually the rules will say lets just
call them on the phone and exchange reports, as we are near that with remotes
now. That makes it easier and I guess that is what everyo
Will the last guy who actually emits RF from his station please remember to
turn off the rig.
K5RK
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Good morning. I have followed with interest the discussion on this subject. I
enjoyed hearing both sides of the issue from my fellow DXers. Most of the
replies have been both thoughtful and respectful and I thank you for that.
I thought you may find it interesting to hear a comment from the pers
Do you get the impression that the ARRL has always been lagging behind
dragging their feet and slow to grasp the many advances in our hobby
that lie ahead? This is evidenced by their collective inability to make
needed upgrades to programs and contest rules. A perfect example is the
ARRL 160 m
I will also send my feedback to my ARRL section manager.
I see no issue with giving DXCC credit to stations that work DX via a
remote and/ or rented station. I see it being the same as someone that has
a QTH on both coasts. They can travel between them and work DX which counts
towards their DXCC.
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