Re: Topband: Remotes 160 and other bands

2024-02-05 Thread Steve Harrison
25 to 59 years ago, I signed portable when operating away from home, and was happy and even proud to do so (usually). Today... not so much, since it lengthens my callsign so much. Of course, in the old CD parties, signing portable never slowed K2EIU/5 down much; he still came out on top more

Re: Topband: Remotes 160 and other bands

2024-02-05 Thread Bob Kile
The topic of remotes has been covered on this channel as much as FT8. In reality it is the demise of DXCC Award that is the issue. I for one operate a private remote along with several others and they are not for hire. :) Two years ago as part of the K0RF multi-multi team we operated remotely

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Ken WA8JXM
Why is it important what someone else does? Doesn't our fulfillment come from what **we** do? I admit, I'm not a competitive person. I prefer to be amazed at what I can do with my own skills, including the antenna I experiment with, Someone else blows $50,000 on an antenna and works a weak 9K2

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Tree
"*I'm still stuck in the 1970's with my Drake line.*" Nothing wrong with that. :-) Tree N6TR On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 5:45 PM Charles Morrison < charles.morrison.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > * If you want to "fix it", petition to change DXCC to read:* > > * "4-digit GRID SQUARE" -or- * > > *

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Charles Morrison
* If you want to "fix it", petition to change DXCC to read:* * "4-digit GRID SQUARE" -or- * * "Same State" -or- * *"Same Antenna for all contacts"* * -or- "wearing the same clothes as you wore for your first confirmed country" * *instead of "within your country."* *Then the people who are

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Jeff via Topband
Jeff Reynolds Hans Hjelmström wrote: Hams seems not to carethere is not a single sound on qrg,BUT Hams seems to be happy to push a finger and let the computer make a so called qso for them. Lets see . is your finger on the key ?? FT8 has opened up the world on my 1/4 acre city lot in

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Steven Daniel
“Unethical” is an interesting term. In my profession, periodontics, ethics and ethical behavior is proscribed in our rules. Since dentistry, like the law and medicine are regulated on a state by state basis, what is “unethical” in Tennessee may not be in Florida. In amateur radio? What we have

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread dave nz3m . com
Ed, Thats a consequence, not intent. my 2c. I really don't care much but can see the issue. 73 Dave NZ3M From: Topband on behalf of sawye...@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 12:49 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Remotes

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread uy0zg via Topband
Hi This topic has been discussed several times already. ARRL pays no attention and continues its business. There is a saying "And Vasily (that’s the cat’s name) listens and eats..." But there is always a way out - you need to intensify your daily work at 160 and enjoy the process. I

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/5/2024 8:57 AM, Steve Harrison wrote: This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX wile preventing deserving locals operating from their home stations from working same DX, is abominable and just plain unethical. I

Topband: Topband remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Dennis Ashworth
Hans (PA5MW) … you nailed it with your comment: “No We all have to do it our own way and let the other do it their way,BUT dxcc is gone for ever as an important award.” I don’t even update my DXCC totals anymore as it no longer represents an accomplishment that I can share and enjoy with fellow

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Dennis Ashworth
Hans … you nailed it with your comment: “No We all have to do it our own way and let the other do it their way,BUT dxcc is gone for ever as an important award.” I don’t even update my DXCC totals anymore as it no longer represents an accomplishment that I can share and enjoy with fellow

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread kq2m
While the idea of using a remote to work challenging DX on 160 or other bands had never occurred to me prior to reading about it on these reflectors a few years ago, there is of course the simplest solution of all and GUARANTEED TO WORK! Just DON'T DO IT! I realize that not everyone feels

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Hans Hjelmström
Well, Topband and 6 meters is killed by FT 8 anyway. Hams seems not to carethere is not a single sound on qrg,BUT Hams seems to be happy to push a finger and let the computer make a so called qso for them. Also the RIB business is as crazy. Having a station on a place,and operators all

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread David Olean
Hi Steve, The horse has left the barn.  I have lost a bit of enthusiasm ever since Maine became a hotspot for 160M into Europe a number of years ago.  There are so many "killer" remote stations in the state now. There is no way I can really compete against it and it is very dis heartening to

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread mstangelo
The art of working DX has been going downhill for years. I would not allow spotting. Mike N2MS > On 02/05/2024 1:11 PM EST David Raymond wrote: > > > We've seen the same thing the past few days with people using RHR to > work the current 7O2WX operation.  Of course, I'm sure they will be

Topband: Fw: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread luc kerkhofs via Topband
- Forwarded Message - From: luc kerkhofs To: Steve Harrison Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 at 06:20:03 PM GMT+1Subject: Re: Topband: Remotes Same problem with people using web SDR radios . No way to compete with home made receive antennas. You dont needto invest time and money

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Steve Harrison
On 2/5/2024 10:11 AM, David Raymond wrote: We've seen the same thing the past few days with people using RHR to work the current 7O2WX operation.  Of course, I'm sure they will be claiming it for their DXCC, which at one time was the world's most prestigious and sought after amateur radio award.

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread David Raymond
We've seen the same thing the past few days with people using RHR to work the current 7O2WX operation.  Of course, I'm sure they will be claiming it for their DXCC, which at one time was the world's most prestigious and sought after amateur radio award. Between remote operation and digital

Re: Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread sawyered
Steve, I thought that train left the station about 10 years ago. Remote stations DXing is well established. Is it really any different than someone that used to live in W6 and now lives in W1 that has 9M2 previously worked and confirmed and didn't restart their 160M DXCC total with the move? Ed

Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread jim.thom jim.t...@telus.net
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:57:26 -0800 From: Steve Harrison To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Remotes >This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from >your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX while preventing deserving >locals operating from their home

Topband: Remotes

2024-02-05 Thread Steve Harrison
This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX wile preventing deserving locals operating from their home stations from working same DX, is abominable and just plain unethical. I lost what respect I had for a couple people I