Re: Topband: Inverted-L question

2023-12-24 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Steve, 5300 pF is way large. It indicates *something *else is going on. "Something" needs to be determined. One thing for sure, after nearly a decade of correspondence with this as a frequent subject, there is no one single "silver bullet" to fix this in all cases. It is complicated and with s

Re: Topband: 160 Retirement VO1HP

2023-09-21 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Well, for a long time, a 160 test was not complete without VO1HP in the log. But I certainly do understand the WX and related strains up there. My brother lived in St Johns for a while. One of my nieces is a “Newfie”. (She lives in Atlanta burbs now. ) Frank was a contributor in the early days ge

Topband: Upgrades to k2av.com

2023-09-21 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
After a long medical issues delay, many upgrades to k2av.com are completed and uploaded. In it we have addressed some number of issues brought up in correspondence. Enjoy :>) 73, Guy K2AV = Revisions Listing for k2av.com V.2023.09.20 [All Articles]

Re: Topband: CW rhythm, swing, speed

2023-06-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I always liked W4KFC on a bug. It was very recognizable, but it was not excessive. Like watching someone walk who has added just a hint of dance steps. 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 8:42 AM Mike Waters wrote: > On Sun, Jun 25, 2023, 5:42 AM Michael Rutkaus wrote: > > > ... most of the t

Re: Topband: Stew Perry Topband Challenge

2023-06-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
That was a really attenuated contest. VE3MGY was weak all night. Except VE3MGY is *never *weak here unless the sun hasn't gone down. Best proof of a weird, attenuated night. I only worked 5 VE's, none of them loud, and normally work 20+, even in summer at least in high teens. Not this year Ne

Topband: 160 ain't dead yet.

2023-02-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Amazing 10 and 15 meters in ARRL DX. Also... 2340Z 22 Feb 2023. G3YRO heard at 1.827.0 and copied call 339. Called but no joy. He might have heard me, but no two-way. No QRN, blizzard in most of US. We just assume that 160 is *dead* when 10 is wide open. 160 ain't dead, but not sure what it is.

Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field

2022-12-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
> 73, > Charlie, N0TT > > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:58:23 -0500 Guy Olinger K2AV > writes: > > Having walked around on the beach with a battery K2 listening to > > incoming > > signals on a short antenna, walking 50 feet from the water drops > > signals > >

Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field

2022-12-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Having walked around on the beach with a battery K2 listening to incoming signals on a short antenna, walking 50 feet from the water drops signals multiple S units. Over the beach there is an absorption zone starting at the sand at water’s edge which goes higher and higher the farther from the wate

Re: Topband: loop on ground vs beverage

2022-11-17 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Andy, One thing I noticed listening, was an apparent lack of gain or noise equalization between the two antennas. Either that or the LOG is WAY quieter than the beverage. Adding an amplifier to an RX antenna, preferably out at the antenna IS a bit of a pain, and needs careful work with a signal

Re: Topband: Poor 160m DX Propagation

2022-04-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Just looking around the band tonight, and what I'm hearing is pretty representative of what's been going on. 1) The general propagation is down about what one would historically expect at this point in the sunspot cycle. We're gonna put up with that for several years. 2) The propagation seems abo

Re: Topband: High winds flapping the L/FCP

2022-03-31 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
at 11:48 PM Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > > Had a very gusty March 7 here in eastern North Carolina blowing the > L/FCP all over. Did some 160m R,X,SWR scans to see the electrical > result of that, recording them to graphical format. Was not expecting > what I got. > > Would you ha

Topband: High winds flapping the L/FCP

2022-03-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Had a very gusty March 7 here in eastern North Carolina blowing the L/FCP all over. Did some 160m R,X,SWR scans to see the electrical result of that, recording them to graphical format. Was not expecting what I got. Would you have guessed that there is a way for the wind to wobble an antenna wire,

Topband: k2av.com new material in V.2022.01.15

2022-01-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Version 2022.01.15 of k2av.com is up. Current release "Versions" content: *V.2022.01.15* - [Home Page] In "Very Useful Details" added item (n) referencing and linking to added content in "Taming the Inverted L": Using a special jumper to eliminate false readings sometimes experienced measuring at

Re: Topband: Poor Propagation or Noise?

2022-01-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Roger, If you go to https://www.blitzortung.org/en/live_lightning_maps.php?map=30 and have a look at the lightning situation here, it will give you an idea what the omni antennas for RBN nodes are putting up against. Also what stations without directional listening antennas are putting up w

Re: Topband: Region One stations below 1810 kHz

2021-12-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Just my .02 on this one. The reader and especially the contest organizer not required to even consider my opinion. In a way it's like the ARRL's DX window in the ARRL160 used to be. It was kept in there for years past its usefulness, especially since in all of the later ARRL160's, the vast, vast

Re: Topband: W6WIN/7

2021-12-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Confirm that, It's N6WIN/7. 73, Guy On Thu, Dec 23, 2021 at 12:58 PM HP via Topband wrote: > Look at N6WIN on his QRZ page -- > > Hank K7HP > > - On Dec 23, 2021, at 12:12 AM, Ed W0YK wrote: > > | N6WIN/7?73,Ed W0YK > | Original message From: ok...@atlas.cz Date: 12/22/2

Re: Topband: NA activity + Inv-L corner insulator

2021-09-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
In the pulley snag conundrum, I found that the small marine grade stainless steel, ball bearing pulleys would handle the black sheathed 3/16 in parachute cord style rope and never a snag. They also pull very easy as the bearing never freezes up from exposure to merely (vs. salt) water. I also have

Re: Topband: Summer Stew Scores

2021-07-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Thanks, Tree. Note that in the *summer* Stew this year, as of this post the high scorer is K1LT who was running LOW power. Ya just never know. 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 1:27 PM Tree wrote: > Sorry for the delay in posting scores. > > The results for the Summer Stew are now avai

Re: Topband: Hygain hytower on 160

2021-05-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I haven’t run a model on a hytower recently but helped one soul out of a quandary with one a while back. Items that required attention: 1) Coax connection SO239 at base and its mounting device metal, etc, had to be entirely replaced due to metallic corrosion. 2) Radials were awful. Needed seriou

Re: Topband: 160m CW Activity

2021-04-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Was recently talking on 160 to one of my G3 acquaintances at his dawn. He was apparently hearing me quite nicely. I gave him an honest, accurate RST 289. Maybe closer to 189. In between rapidly recurring S9/20 QRN crashes he was an honest S8 on the K3, 3 or 4 S units above daytime noise levels. Ne

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-24 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Roger It sure seems like a lot of confusion arises when folks attempt concise electrical and mathematical thoughts and calculations using words with very broad and fuzzy definitions. Words like radial, vertical, topload, etc. can mean different things and can create remarkably confusing sente

Re: Topband: New Subject: 160M array feedline question

2021-03-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
A counterpoise is what we do when the full size of a double-ended antenna, dipole, OCF, etc is too large for us to build, maintain, etc. Very simply, we want to jam the energy from the shield of our coax into the counterpoise, and the energy from the center conductor into the radiating element, the

Re: Topband: Antenna thoughts

2021-03-02 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I would have to know just exactly how your "Ground R" was constructed to comment. The two EZNEC variables for ground description are dielectric constant and conductance. Also there is a lot depending on the T dimensions and L dimensions in any comparison that would preclude any simple answer that d

Re: Topband: FCP Question

2021-01-09 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
e and let others. I will also post to this reflector a piece that shows the increasing warning over time of consequences for not following the help files' "closely spaced wires" dictum. Being the semi-hoarder I am, I have everything from V2 onward. I doubt many have that laying arou

Re: Topband: FCP Question

2021-01-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Rick, There is no problem modeling an FCP. You do have to do the parallel wires a certain way that’s documented in EZNEC since 1997 (version 2). What do you perceive to be the issue? 73, Guy K2AV On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:10 AM Richard (Rick) Karlquist < rich...@karlquist.com> wrote: > It w

Re: Topband: US1Q Stew

2020-12-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Jamie, That will be the contest sponsor's call, whose decision is final. Nor is the sponsor required to explain decisions of this nature. Any explanation would be the sponsor's choice. Nor do the published TBDC rules require that an entrant must not have been DQ'd in any other contest for some

Re: Topband: Rogers dipole

2020-12-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I don’t at all doubt Roger’s reports. The grind comes when others attempting Roger's successful methods report terrible results. There is clearly something going on not at all well understood. There are some number of reasons why it is nearly impossible to draw universally reproducible conclusions

Re: Topband: I need help proofing an Inverted L model I made please. 40’ x 143’, four 100’ radials, #14 wire.

2020-12-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Over really good dirt there isn’t too much difference. The other problem is that the NEC ground approximation coding usually underestimates loss. This is because the ground approximation in the model uses a monolithic ground. Same stuff 100 feet down as at the surface. Real dirt never is. Water ta

Re: Topband: FW: CQWW a bust this year

2020-12-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Nick, I have a limited setup, only an inverted L over an FCP on 160 (not like W3LPL's 160m 4 square cannon). With basically no time to operate, I managed about 60 minutes in three spells on 160m, 45 QSO's, 17 zones, 30 countries, all S&P. I worked EU and AF in zones: 14: 4, 15: 7, 16: 1, 20:1

Re: Topband: Cycle 25 predictions

2020-12-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
As a lifetime true-blue dyed-in-the-wool statistical wonk, this solar cycle presentation is the statistical equivalent of Jascha Heifitz playing the violin. We always have to wait and see how things play out, for sure. But... And a very delightful "but..." at that... But... For the first time in

Re: Topband: Wednesday CW DX Activity Night

2020-11-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I heard the 7Q7 call sign here in NC exactly once, of course at the tippy top of a long QSB cycle, which then immediately dove into the noise not to be heard again in the 30 minutes before I had to go downstairs. 8’s and 9’s appeared to be hearing him. Go figure. 73, Guy K2AV On Thu, Nov 19, 202

Re: Topband: ARRL 160M and 1830-1835 change

2020-10-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I’m glad that rule is gone from the ARRL 160. THEORETICALLY that should have worked. What I observed year over year was that the ** DX ** didn’t use it that much. Not altogether sure why. I suspect that S&P stations didn’t start their scanning in the DX window because most of their contacts were g

Re: Topband: Good Conditions, Little Activity

2020-10-09 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Is this thread’s subject material really just whining? Well, FT8 does some really good things that typical CW operation doesn’t usually want to bother with. 1) use of a calling frequency (“SSB” “carrier” frequency) 2) constant monitoring 3) highly efficient use of VERY close frequencies. Never n

Re: Topband: BOG Front to back

2020-09-24 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Just to point out that there is NO one-size-fits-all PHYSICAL length for BOG best f/b. There is an ELECTRICAL length that far better defines it. And the electrical length of a fixed length of wire varies wildly all over the place, depending on the ground underneath, and the spacing to actual dirt

Re: Topband: Shunt Fed Tower SWR Troubles

2020-08-27 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I agree about the padding caps, good addition. I know of instances of both, fixed caps with insufficient current rating, and the balun insufficient for 160m blocking. If the caps were starting cold, there would be some period where the SWR was normal and then start climbing. The 160m stressed bal

Re: Topband: Shunt Fed Tower SWR Troubles

2020-08-27 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
; variables in an Omega match. > > > > 73, > > > > John, W4NU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 27, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Dale, > &g

Re: Topband: Shunt Fed Tower SWR Troubles

2020-08-27 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Dale, The RF voltage is always looking at the far end (stuff on the end away from the tower base) to jump onto. *** Provide a deliberate, designed, long-term weather survivable metallic path to the boom of the highest yagi and provide a low R&X path from the boom to BOTH sides of at least one

Re: Topband: Tuning a 2el parasitic array

2020-06-21 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
With the era of cheap VNA's it does seem time to move forward. Especially with wire yagi's, you can get VNA's with smartphone style 5V USB charged batteries that talk to a tablet running supplied software, communicating with bluetooth. You can put the VNA right at the feed, and pull it up in the ai

Re: Topband: CAT6 Feed Line

2020-05-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Mikek, The trick is to remember that just one common mode block rarely does the trick. Usually if it's bad the first one will make a difference. The second maybe not at all. What happens with the second depends entirely on where it is with respect to the first block. The trick is to understand

Re: Topband: KV4FZ from the eyes of the USVI

2020-05-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Thanks for the URL 73, Guy K2AV On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:08 AM Edward Seeliger wrote: > For a perspective on Herb - KV4FZ - from the eyes of those who knew him in > the USVI, see this link: > > https://stthomassource.com/content/2020/05/03/activist-communicator-herb-schoenbohm-dies-at-84/ > Ed

Re: Topband: Measure dipole on ground to get VF of BOG.

2020-05-02 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Mikek, BOGs have a very miscellaneous performance, some love 'em, some hate 'em, nobody telling a lie. One part of a back yard can have a heated BOG argument with a different part of the same back yard, both sides verified with MEASUREMENTS. The secret has to do with the BOG in DOG disguise, o

Re: Topband: Anyone QRV in ND?

2020-04-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
In the past two ARRL 160 and two CQ 160 CW contests, I worked the following with ND in their exchange. I checked, they all have QRZ.com addresses in ND as of today. I worked K0IDX in two contests, the others just in one: N7IV N0UD K0YL K0IDX I'd get their email addresses and go beg. Quick, befor

Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity

2020-03-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Rudy is not the only one taking measurements. I've been doing EZNEC since 1996 (v2) and NEC4/EZNEC Pro since 2002. The latter cost me well over a thousand bucks, but has been well worth it in the long run and then some. NEC4 does on the ground and under the ground in a reliable way, but still does

Re: Topband: Slightly OT - amplifier noise

2020-03-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Depending on the exact circuit and device, to measure noise from the device itself, don’t you have to terminate the inputs to put the normal impedance on them? The circuits are often designed with the coax Z zero in mind. 73, Guy K2AV On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:47 PM Steve London wrote: > This

Re: Topband: T Top Verticals and yagis

2020-02-29 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Have to disagree on the no-use-for the horizontal leg. It fills in the doughnut hole in the high angle radiation, which in contests is very good for keeping others from planting on your run frequency. Also there are high angle path opportunities that are gradually becoming more recognized. PLUS, t

Re: Topband: T Top Verticals and yagis

2020-02-28 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
That’s an awful lot of effort just to keep a T top. There are a number of effective alternatives to the traditional T top without the interaction drawbacks. Inverted L is only the dirt simple one without the skip-zone-making high angle hole in the pattern. 73, Guy K2AV On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 9:4

Re: Topband: CQ WW Contest

2020-01-28 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Roger, Just want to be sure we are both talking about the weekend of 25, 26 January, 2020, the weekend of the 2020 CQ 160 CW contest. If so, I must register my decidedly firm impression that was the best 160 meter weekend of my lifetime, what has to be a counterpoint of the amazing 1958 sunspot

Topband: K2AV Trident L

2020-01-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Starting with a 160 inverted L/FCP, we first added 80 by tuning the aerial wire/FCP as an end-fed half-wave L. That's been up, works very well, off beta status. But 40 meters was always a killer. Many, many, many hours of EZNEC runs chasing something to get 40 meters on the same aerial wire/FCP. Bu

Re: Topband: de n7dd

2020-01-10 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Issues of a fixed capacitor as seen in this thread have been a similar problem for a network two-banding an 160m Inv L over FCP. k2av.com has a section on this problem how to do 500 with three 170 pf barrel style HEC caps. The section also has links to HEC reference material on how to derate those

Re: Topband: K9ay loop not performing

2019-12-10 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The need to disconnect the feedline shield is to block common mode signals. A K9AY approved **EXCELLENT** common mode block (not a regular "balun" with likely awful blocking on 160m), or (GASP) an isolation transformer will take care. In the case quoted, with the coax center contductor opened, the

Re: Topband: K9ay loop not performing

2019-12-10 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Pete, See RF parts.com, search vacuum relay VC2T-13.2. SPDT will allow you to change your mind about what state you want with no voltage to winding. And you will not need to buy a 24 volt power supply. Rated 12 kV will handle anything ham QRO. These are new, currentLy manufactured items. 73, an

Re: Topband: BOG Beverage on Ground Help

2019-12-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I agree with Bob. I think the name BOG is firmly entrenched, whatever the electrical differences. Oh, I could propose a new name, but I doubt it would ever stick. I'll go back to my Otter/Platypus to propose a parable: Suppose that the Platypus had instead gotten the name of Duckfaced Otter, and

Re: Topband: BOG Beverage on Ground Help

2019-12-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
BOG is not a Beverage. So don't think about or treat a BOG like a Beverage. The relationship between a Beverage and a BOG is like the relationship between an Otter and a Platypus. Both are aquatic mammals, but the Platypus lays eggs and has other very un-Otter characteristics. Early in the decade,

Re: Topband: AIM-4300 Discontinued

2019-10-27 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Sam, Not particularly surprising as technology has caught up and you can get a two port VNA for $50. Chinese knockoff of a European device with an absolutely ghastly user manual. But it shows no future for something manufactured with parts and in a manner that requires a $500 price to market at

Re: Topband: PreStew coming next weekend

2019-10-13 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Dave, Can't know the final score until all the logs with their TX power levels show up at Tree's place. What N1MM shows is as good as any beforehand. But there is no way to know points for working an LP or QRP station until all the logs are in Tree's data base. I don't know if the score sharin

Re: Topband: [TowerTalk] Skip Distance

2019-09-13 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Just remembered one other thing, the hours I use are SOLAR noon to SOLAR 2 pm. Where I live daylight time 10 am is 9 am standard time, and 8:50 am Solar time. In Lexington, Ky, USA that would be 8:23 AM. So during summer, I wait until 1 pm to measure. HOWEVER... Even then there can be residual pr

Re: Topband: Skip Distance

2019-09-12 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Decidedly possible. W4KAZ RBN node is 7 miles away. There is skywave contamination almost every evening with large drops. It can be increased or reduced by the choice of antenna at the RX site, but not eliminated. The largest signal to the RBN is usually high noon. That is fudged by wet local con

Re: Topband: Supplemental ground rod installation for existing 160m tower

2019-09-05 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Jeff, A direct strike can easily overwhelm a single ground rod, not so much because of the ground rod, but because of the resistivity of the ground that is touching it. The condition of the total interface of rod touching dirt limits it's current carrying capacity. If sufficiently spread, a ne

Re: Topband: BOG height

2019-08-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Mike, et al. I have personal acquaintance and knowledge of a number of hams who have put down a BOG that was anything but straight. Some with 90 degree bends, another shaped like a Z, and less extreme bends. The end of those small lot, weird property situational BOG attempts, is that a few didn

Re: Topband: BOG height

2019-08-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Ed, You're on the right track. A "beverage" ON the ground really is NOT a beverage. For two things to be called the same genus, they need to have most everything in common. This is true of big yagis, little yagis, short yagis, long yagis, trapped yagis, linear loaded yagis, end loaded yagis,

Re: Topband: FCP vs Gull Wing Elevated Radials

2019-07-27 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Jerry, 65% is in the wheelhouse for DOG VF's. 400 to 600 ohms seems high. In the 12 county area around Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill, we measured 120 - 200 ohms resonant R. The variation you experienced, and also high R readings could be explained by a few nicks in the wire insulation toward the

Re: Topband: FCP vs Gull Wing Elevated Radials

2019-07-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Wes, Thanks for posting up the Severns material. I had started looking for that, but without memory of exact words (which makes searching difficult), and without absolute certainty that Rudy was who I heard it from. You likely saved me an entire working day. If you're ever in the area, that's w

Re: Topband: RFI on TB

2019-07-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Mark, Response to David farther down. Short answer: Just one relay, really. Long answer: There is a lot of misinformation about FCP's floating around out there, essentially because most don't know anything at all about FCP's and a certain few of those keep talking anyway. I don't have a lot

Re: Topband: RFI on TB

2019-07-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I gotta agree with Rob. An inverted L aerial wire will hear ALL the noise that is around. Mine sure does. RX antenna will help enormously if there is a place to put one that does not get the noise second hand off the L. Not enough room? A bit complicated, but "repeated" noise off the L can be dealt

Re: Topband: Fwd: ARRL DXCC - 160 Meters OK1YQ (OK1RD) Legitimacy???!!!

2019-06-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
It does seem, at the moment not being entirely wrapped up in ham radio, that there certainly is the analogue of OK1YQ in just about every realm of life. I can think of a few names that I personally found intensely irritating in the particular circumstances. So I DO understand the pique. When will t

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
For 160 meters don’t think of a jet as a reflecting surface. Try “thick wire”. Particularly one in a tight turn and wings significantly vertical. 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 2:10 PM Paul Kiesel via Topband < topband@contesting.com> wrote: > I don't have an explanation for this, but I h

Re: Topband: Updated K9YC common-mode choke PDF now available

2019-02-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I would not repeatedly bend any coax with a solid center conductor. Which leaves RG142 for permanent routing. Jumpers to and from back of TXR and amps etc are always RG400. Windings on cores are always RG400. RG400 shield weave and center conductor made of very fine strands of silver coated copper.

Re: Topband: FT-8

2019-02-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
> > > -Original Message- > From: w5zn > .snip > Last weekend leading up to and during CQWW 160, all of the FT8 folks > bitterly complained that the CW guys had taken over the entire band and > destroyed FT8. > .snip In the US anyway, it was pretty clear to me that folks were stee

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
What is missing from that discussion about a maximized use of a given investment, is whether that investment however well maximized, is in fact adequate for the particular ground characteristics and circumstances. Four rotten eggs will deliver a rotten omelette no matter what you mix in or how nea

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Have to pay attention to everything he is reporting. He added a feedpoint choke per K9YC at the same time. Which may, depending on the physical connections at his feedpoint, have removed the feedline shield as an alternate “radial” in parallel with the increasing but still not full size radial syst

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Fred. You said: "Guy K2AV I'm guessing you don't like rg58 because of the center conductor moving outwards??" Nope. :>)) RG58 is not RG400. That's why I don't like RG58. RG400 is what should be used for winding coax on toroids. RG400 is a currently manufactured item. It is INTENDED to han

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-18 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Todd, Have a look at the calculator at https://chemandy.com/calculators/return-loss-and-mismatch-calculator.htm This calculator allows me to compute the SWR for your data points, as if the Z zero of the meter was 32 ohms. This is important because so many excellent antennas exhibit raw feed R

Re: Topband: 160 conditions

2019-01-13 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
They were all worn out from the NAQP, which included a mob and a lot of good results on 160. :>)) 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 5:26 AM Tom Boucher wrote: > > Outstanding sunrise conditions at 0800 today on top band. FM5BH on 1818 KHz > S9+. ZL3IX on 1826.5 long path peaking S8/9 on my me

Re: Topband: 30 Ja's worked today on 160

2019-01-12 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
"Nobody on CW" is probably answered better by few people listening and most not having implemented an automated way to pick up on CW CQ's. That's sort of built into the usual ham shack blend of FT8 and logging programs. In the contests, anyway, even RTTY tests and the recent RTTY roundup with FT8

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question

2019-01-12 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
ion is, given the low current at-ground feed point with Zo ~ > 2000-ohms or so, what sort of improvement might one expect if the radial > field was significantly improved? > > 73 to all - Dick/w7wkr at CN98pi > = > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question

2019-01-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
currents were correct, am I overthinking > this about potential losses? > 5. Do other Topbanders have experience with measuring radial current phase? > 6. Most of the literature gives strong admonitions to "equalize" radial > current "within a few percent" (ON4UN and

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question

2019-01-07 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Apologies to all for delay in response. Losses related to ground and close dielectric materials remain the single monster gorilla in the room for improving TX performance of vertical antennas. Setting aside content on k2av.com relating to the FCP, the other issues in that web page’s "Loss List" s

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2

2018-12-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Chet, Before we start, a disclaimer: I still have my MP, maybe I'm a radio hoarder. I do have a 75A3 and a Johnson Ranger and Courier and an FT 101ZD. The only long used radios I don't still have are my SB300 and SB400, and I wish I hadn't sold those. So my MP bashing is technical and proven, a

Re: Topband: Rather use N-type (was Re: The answer to PL-259 soldering/reliability problems)

2018-12-06 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I agree with Rick, If an N connector is not designed to fix the relationship of the center pin (soldered to the center conductor) to the body it should not be used outdoors or on long runs of unburied coax exposed to full seasonal temperatures. I learned that the hard way on unfixed pin N connect

Re: Topband: new style PL-259's with screw on back INSTRUCTIONS

2018-12-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Terry. Whatever you are referring to didn’t make it through the reflector. Can you provide us with a URL link to the connectors? Thanks and 73, Guy K2AV On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:46 PM terry burge wrote: > Hello guys and gals, > > > I just bought 10 of these from China. Free shipping if you

Re: Topband: N4KG reverse-fed vs. Gamma/omega

2018-12-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Kenny, You set your curiosity on a real toughie. Tread where angels fear to go, and all that. The N4KG feed is extremely situational in its efficiency, or some efficiency, or no efficiency. It can be modeled in NEC 4, the version of NEC which allows you to have conductors both above and in th

Re: Topband: Vertical antennas aren't always best for DX everywhere - the facts

2018-11-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Have to remember that W8JI, ON4UN and many others were not lying or deceived. What we are finding out is that a major rule has some exceptions. If you're talking to a club member in the US, you better point them to verticals, T's or inverted L's. One of the missing aspects of dipole vs. vertical c

Re: Topband: 160m Antenna, worse than I thought !

2018-11-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Mike, You certainly are not the first to experience an antenna "grounding" that makes unbelievable the contacts actually made with it. BTDT for sure Another thing is our common predilection for thinking that SWR means anything other than when it has a large change, something has happened. But

Re: Topband: FCP for lower power

2018-11-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, David, Regarding the FCP 160-80 meter dual banding project and circuit component sizing particulars ... I completely understand the urge to downsize. However, the devil is in the blasted details. This question faithfully recurs from time to time: Can we use smaller wire, use a smaller core, s

Topband: VP6D

2018-10-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Went looking for them after finishing the 0300Z CWT on 160m. He was down the band some from where the CWT mob had been. I had seen somewhere that they were working up 2. Called him once up about 2 and worked him about 0410Z. Listened for a while. He was working a mix of EU and USA. Clearly a fine

Re: Topband: Adding chicken wire or mesh on top of radial field

2018-10-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Quite late in response, partly done much earlier. Sometimes I have time, and sometimes I have a house and a spouse. Peter's original question in this thread was why a radial and mesh mix in a counterpoise should have the radials and mesh bonded together. That is quite a different question than why

Re: Topband: Inv L with FCP Tuning

2018-10-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Julio, Sorry for delay. I didn't see this post when it hit the reflector. Around 2009 before publishing the FCP design, the change to polyimide coated wire and Teflon sleeve brought a string of toroid device failures to a sudden and permanent halt and turned previously "fragile" devices into

Re: Topband: In L in Tree

2018-10-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I sometimes get around to posting on these things only when I'm not buried by something else. So late as this may be... I'm sure that the writer truly meant "worked very well", but that is not a scalar description. "Worked very well" is a degree of satisfaction, however else someone may measure th

Re: Topband: Mixed RF grounds

2018-10-19 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Mike, For elevated 1/4 wave radials to work well, they need to be carrying the same RF current away from the common center point. This is to produce near net zero RF fields at the ground. 1/8 wave elevated radials with an isolation transformer per k2av.com will do better than the same number an

Re: Topband: trying to tune up 80 meter 4-Square

2018-10-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Essential point that might be missed: each one of the elements, one at a time, must be tuned independently with the other three elements down. This is the initial tuning. If when everything hooked up characteristics are OK then you’re done. Finish initial tuning and it's *not* OK? To slide the ARR

Re: Topband: Inv L in Tree

2018-09-23 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Ed, Taking the vertical wire up next to the tree trunk will be fairly lossy. That usually also means that some part of the horizontal wire is going through the tree canopy, which will be further lossy. See k2av.com . Click on the green index button "Place an Inverted L". Also read "Design an I

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-31 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
hich uses the aforementioned "killer coil". :>)) 73 folks, Guy K2AV On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:34 PM Wes Stewart wrote: > I agree with Rick. The advantage to the edge-wound inductor is the better > heat > dissipation; needed because the Q is lower :-) > > Wes N7WS &

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The referenced Ameritron/MFJ part number is an 11 inch coil (aka BMW coil stock of old), coil wound into 4 polystyrene rods. This one is 3 inches diameter, four turns per inch, 10 AWG tinned bare solid copper. This stuff is used in various Ameritron amps as part of the output Pi-L networks. I have

Re: Topband: 160 sloper readings

2018-08-18 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Gary. It is not clear from your description exactly how the "sloper" is fed, where the radials are in relation to the tower, etc. Quite a few things could be responsible for a change like that. Not clearing the leaves off the ground over the radials will gradually bury them and result in a s

Topband: 160 is coming back

2018-08-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
160 is coming back from 2, maybe 3 weeks of doldrums and not making it over the Sierras, or tickling Europe. RBN's tickled from CWT on 160 2345 to Wednesday night local Hits to the east: OL7M Hits to the west: N7TR(2) VE6WZ(3) N6TV VE7CC AC0C Also hearing buoy signals on 1828. AU8 was S

Re: Topband: Several BOG questions

2018-08-06 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Mike et al, BOGs have a well deserved reputation for being cantankerous, with great results for K4ABCD over here and awful results for K3WXYZ over there. There is a part of the explanation for that variation that really isn't fixable. But better outcomes are possible with a more detailed explan

Topband: Summer, but 160 ain't dead

2018-07-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
During the last 15 mins or so of CWT, stations worked on 160 included: on the east G4UFK, not in test. on the west N6RO Western RBN's VE7CC, VE6WZ, NC7J, east spot (not RBN) ON7PQ. Don't sound like a dead band to me. Some number of signals were better than 20 over. If you're starved for 160 tim

Re: Topband: Fwd: Re: Baker Island DXpedition on 160

2018-06-14 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Methinks hamdom underestimates 160 propagation in the summertime. Working DX through QRN and having reduced opening time during summer, these make working the DX irritating to the ears and inconvenient, but not impossible. Even with no more than an inverted L, I still hit European RBN later in the

Re: Topband: Question for the K2AV FCP users...

2018-05-21 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Howdy, all. <<>> Peter's post here follows a direct inquiry some weeks ago that I was unable to fully answer before now. Wire mats connected to ground radials have been around a long time and instances reported improving sparse on/in ground radial systems. So an intuited extension to a mat on th

Re: Topband: Wednesday 160m DX Activity Night

2018-04-25 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hmm, this last week was still hitting RBN over there, and worked G3OLB two different days a little before his sunrise. One of those was a long lovely old time 599 QSO with Tom, like I was working someone in Ohio on 80 meters. It might be "season" over, but 160 sure isn't over, at least not yet. I

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