I don't think FT8 will necessarily doom ham radio, but it could (and likely
will) change the face of DXing for awhile.
But, to me, the excitement of DXing comes from the necessary element of
uncertainty -- when the outcome remains in doubt until the final "RR, TU es
73." Pitting ones skills an
I just stumbled across this thread, and I understand many of the
opinions expressed here.
But one point that I don't think anyone has mentioned: the OP lives in
the middle of nowhere in Western Australia, where noise problems are
probably virtually non-existent. In contrast, I live in the sout
Amen!
73, Mirko S57AD
2017-10-25 16:34 GMT+02:00 Tree :
> Great post Steve - you put into words a concern that I am sure many of us
> share.
>
> First off - as manager of this fine list - let's all be careful and not let
> the discussion get out of hand. Respect other people's opinion. This i
Very well said indeed.
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
On Oct 25, 2017 9:37 AM, "Tree" wrote:
> Great post Steve - you put into words a concern that I am sure many of us
> share.
>
> First off - as manager of this fine list - let's all be careful and not let
> the discussion get out of hand. Respect ot
Why do you care how I get DXCC? It is my award. I am not competing
against you for DXCC. I can choose to include or exclude any contact I
want for DXCC. These awards are individual. The only reason people
whine about these other modes as it lets more people into the honor
roll which is a
Gentlemen,
Why choose to let what others are doing upset us, especially when there is
not a thing we can do about it? Let's just enjoy our 160m DX and contests
instead. :-)
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Great post Steve - you put into words a concern that I am sure many of us
share.
First off - as manager of this fine list - let's all be careful and not let
the discussion get out of hand. Respect other people's opinion. This is a
hot topic for sure and there is not going to be some kind of reso
I think that digital modes such as FT8 are a boon to hams in homes with
covenants, allowing them to work the world with minimal, even indoor,
antennas and QRP power levels. For them, at least, the challenge is
still there. I think FT8 is so popular because there is more reward
(contacts) for a
I hope everyone in the US (except for me) switches to FT-8 on 160 meters
which will give me a much better chance to work the dx-peditions and other
rare ones on 160 meters CW:-)
I downloaded the software to check out what FT-8 was all about, and after
30 minutes I had seen enough and decided it wa
I'm not a topbander except in spirit; haven't yet flown an antenna for
anything above 80 meters but this discussion is resonant, if you will,
across all bands.
I got into ham radio a couple years ago, about 50 years after I was exposed
to it. Life got in the way in the meantime and at this point
Correct Don/W2MPK
A separate digital dxcc for FT8/JT65 should make it.These contacts no good
for the other band/CW/SSB/Mixed awards. Just a separate one.
BUT the official at arrl refused to even think of it. Very unpleasant answer
from him.
Kind regards
Hans SM6CVX
> 25 okt 2017 kl. 16:03 sk
Hi all, here's my $.02...
Radio is what you make of it. Do what you enjoy. If you don't like the
digimodes, stay away from them.
DXCC means different things to different people. To some, it means only SSB
or CW. To others, they're perfectly happy with digi modes. Others want to
earn DXCC from a s
I have used JT65. It's just like watching paint dry, but the only
reason for using it was because I was competing in the CDXC
CHallenge last year. Without using JT65 I would not have won the 6m
section.
This year, again using not JT65 but FT8, I had to use it because so
very few were using co
As a younger old guy in ham radio at 53, licensed since 1978, I am
enjoying the heck out of FT8. It is very different than other modes
such as CW or SSB.
Why the commotion? It takes up a couple of KC's on the band and nobody
is forcing you to do it.
It is allowing people how have smaller s
There was no thrill in the first FT8 contact I made like the one I received
when I worked W1BB using a Central Electronics 20A and a homebrew amp using 4
6AG7 tubes in grounded grid and an inverted " L " only 40 feet up.
Yes I'm an old geezer, be 90 in December and think there should be a separa
I guess I don’t understand what makes the new Digital modes any different
from old RTTY...the “sounds” are similar enuf to learn to love and the words
are still displayed on (in the old days) paper or a screen.
There are many audibly-compromised hams out there – such as me – who really
welcome a
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Ireland
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:25 AM
To: Topband reflector
Subject: Topband: FT8 - the end of 160m old school DXing? (long)
G'day
As a committed (yeah, that'
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"Has the world really turned upside down and what do you think the future
holds?"
Hi Steve
On the old days we used to call CQ several times and listening, very few people
realize what listening really means. It means we need to tune around the band
to find someone calling us. Take that knob an
Steve,
Thanks for calling me this morning. Good signals.
At one time I was interested in EME on 2 Meters. I found out that most of the
QSOs were taking lace using some digital means where you didn't even hear the
station you were working. My desire went to zero at that point in time.
Hope
tal modes. It's obviously a new and
interesting technology and they are having fun, which is the reason we do this,
right? I just have ZERO interest in it all and still get my fun actually
hearing and working another station.
73, Stew K3ND
From: Steve Ireland
To: Topband reflecto
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:22:16 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: FT8 - the end of 160m old school DXing? (long)
Heh,
I have found myself thinking more and more in recent years of just
dropping ham radio. Those psychologists may have oversimplified things a
little b
Behalf Of ok1tn
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 12:26 PM
To: Bob Kupps
Cc: Topband reflector ; Steve Ireland
Subject: Re: Topband: FT8 - the end of 160m old school DXing? (long)
Agree completely from me too.
over 50years on TOP band only CW
ok1tn
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5, 2017 4:26 AM
To: Topband reflector<mailto:topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: FT8 - the end of 160m old school DXing? (long)
G’day
As a committed (yeah, that’s probably the right word - complete with white
jacket that laces up at the back) topbander since 1970, I’ve never been so
5, 2017 4:26 AM
To: Topband reflector<mailto:topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: FT8 - the end of 160m old school DXing? (long)
G’day
As a committed (yeah, that’s probably the right word - complete with white
jacket that laces up at the back) topbander since 1970, I’ve never been
Well said. . .I totally agree. 73. . .Dave, W0FLS
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From: Steve Ireland
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:25 AM
To: Topband reflector
Subject: Topband: FT8 - the end of 160m old school DXing? (long)
G’day
As a committed (yeah, that’s probably the right word
2017 10:25
Till: Topband reflector
Ämne: Topband: FT8 - the end of 160m old school DXing? (long)
G’day
As a committed (yeah, that’s probably the right word - complete with white
jacket that laces up at the back) topbander since 1970, I’ve never been so
intrigued and disturbed by anything on the
Agree completely from me too.
over 50years on TOP band only CW
ok1tn
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Hi Steve
I FULLY agree on all you write. Unfortunately I also feel that Ham radio is
more or less lost.
According to me,,,this is NOT Ham radio,, it is digi to digi without any
personal feeling.
And even more ,it destroy completely the challenge of Ham radio…..
Next is to let your computer mak
: Topband: FT8 - the end of 160m old school DXing? (long)
G’day
As a committed (yeah, that’s probably the right word - complete with white
jacket that laces up at the back) topbander since 1970, I’ve never been so
intrigued and disturbed by anything on the band as the emergence of the
Franke-Taylor
G’day
As a committed (yeah, that’s probably the right word - complete with white
jacket that laces up at the back) topbander since 1970, I’ve never been so
intrigued and disturbed by anything on the band as the emergence of the
Franke-Taylor FT-8 digital mode.
For me, radio has always been all
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