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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Topband: Outing The Scofflaws...
On 11/12/2012 8:36 AM, N1BUG wrote:
I question how many good operators would have the... [ahem]
courage to out the offenders.
I am sufficiently disgusted
Last night on 80m it was kind of funny as I was spotted at least twice while
I was calling PT0S. Must have had a big signal but no QSO.
Doug
I'll run the race, and I will never be the same again.
-Original Message-
On 11/12/2012 1:48 PM, Mike(W5UC) Kathy (K5MWH) wrote:
I just tell
The thing I find amazing is the number of people that send on top of the
station that the DX is trying to work. For the past two nights while
listening to PT0S and listening for the frequency of the station he is
working, I always hear the same station at that frequency sending
non-stop on
I amazed at the number of DXers who call non stop, almost regardless if
whether PT0S is working someone. And then, my favorite, 7DX??. And many who
have no possible relation to that call keep sending.
Bob AA6VB
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On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:10 AM, K4SAV radi...@charter.net
With all the explanations and angst over this type of behavior truly it comes
down simply to pure unabashed idiocy by our comrades. I'd just like to sit
next to one of these guys while they r doing it and ask why? Are they serious
about trying to make a contact calling out of turn, calling
Sometimes its accidental guys. Picture this example.
DX says: TU
Everybody calls. I drop in my call twice at 30 WPM. Hear nothing. Drop in
call twice again. ... during that brief moment DX sends 7DX? and I don't hear
him as I am still transmitting call twice.
And again I hear nothing as DX is
Bob, I agree with you. If I remember correctly, getting close to (NTCA)= no
tower climbing age, VP6DX used a very good procedure moving their TX QRG
up/down by about 0.5 kHz, more than enough to keep the real amateur bastards
away from making qrm on their TX FQ.
I guess this new flue is getting
John, k9uwa wrote:
Sometimes its accidental guys. Picture this example. DX says: TU Everybody
calls. I drop in my call twice at 30 WPM. Hear nothing. Drop in call twice
again. ... during that brief moment DX sends 7DX? and I don't hear him as I am
still transmitting call twice. And again I
On 11/13/2012 7:56 AM, Chortek, Robert L wrote:
Yes, sometimes it is accidental, and I have been guilty of calling when I
should be listening.
Of course, but not for six or seven TX/RX cycles! We should be calling
ONLY when we can copy the DX station well enough to know what's going
on. I
Kudos to the operators at PT0S for their adjustment to band conditions
and volume of callers. I listened for two nights before making the dive
into the mayhem. To me the first few nights the operators were going far
to fast for the conditions especially for those in Rocky Mountain states
and
I'm not a dxpeditioner, but even so I frequently find myself on the
receiving end of pileups, particularly with EU. The behavior of some callers
occasionally makes the process very painful. It's also much more work than I
think some people understand. Callers who end with enjoy the pileup
actually
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From: Bob Garrett rgarre...@comcast.net
To: garyk...@wi.rr.com , topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Outing The Scofflaws...
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Finally, a voice of reason! All this talk of amps
I can only figure one possible how someone is exactly on PTOS Fx and
repeated keep calling directly on the DX Transmit frequency and that
is that they have their radio set split and then reversed it while
still listening to both frequencies simultaneously. This way they
would hear the DX
Here's an idea that I'll toss up into the air as a (possible) first step in
bringing a few of these lawless characters to heel:
Maintain some sort of an open-to-all web page that is frequented by would-be
future DX'peditions that contains a master list of the call signs of those
habitual
Nice idea, but the majority of the really terrible stuff is done by guys
who don't sign their calltuning up, or pretending to be the DX station,
or some kind of intentional interference. We've all done the wrong VFO
thing and sent our call on the DX stations freq. That is easily
On 2012-11-12, at 11:08 AM, cqtestk...@aol.com wrote:
Nice idea, but the majority of the really terrible stuff is done by guys
who don't sign their calltuning up, or pretending to be the DX station,
or some kind of intentional interference. We've all done the wrong VFO
thing and
For illegal power, there is not much you can do unless, as you say, you
are in the shack watching it. For bad operating you can diplomatically
mention to the offender that your heard someone using their call and
using very poor operating techniques (specifics supplied) and that you
figured
This topic is getting old.
Here's another point of view:
Why should I let myself get aggravated over the poor operating habits of
others?
Why should their bad behavior take up my valuable time to give them the
attention they want?
I can't be bothered writing complaints or naming names or
: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:27:01 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: Topband: Outing The Scofflaws...
For illegal power, there is not much you can do unless, as you say, you
are in the shack watching it. For bad operating you can diplomatically
mention to the offender that your heard someone using their call
On 2012-11-12, at 12:35 PM, Jerry Keller (K3BZ) wrote:
This topic is getting old.
Here's another point of view:
Why should I let myself get aggravated over the poor operating habits of
others?
Why should their bad behavior take up my valuable time to give them the
attention they want?
Since I sort of started this with my post last night...
I don't think that public humiliation is going to fix this problem. As
others have pointed out, there is too much of a potential for abuse with
people deliberately signing others callsigns, etc. I think the best is
peer pressure from
/2012 9:36 AM, mstang...@comcast.net wrote:
Michael,
Good advice. Remember to contact the potential offender off-list.
Mike N2MS
- Original Message -
From: Michael Tope w...@dellroy.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:27:01 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: Topband: Outing
I don't like seeing all the comments I'm reading in the cluster reports. It's
sad.. but it will pass soon.
Like someone else pointed out.. I'd hate to see people turn away from all the
hassles of an expedition like PT0S because of the acts of some.
I haven't had contact with PT0S yet but I
What gets me is the one who has a fantastic antenna farm but still has to
resort to a tube with handles when he doesnt get thru right away with the
store bought amp. The signal increase is dramatic and he is a regular on the
forum.
Carl
KM1H
It's like the guys we know who operate illegal
On 11/12/2012 8:36 AM, N1BUG wrote:
I question how many good operators would have the... [ahem]
courage to out the offenders.
I am sufficiently disgusted with behavior in the pileups tonight and
last night to observe that some using VE3XB repeatedly called PT0S when
PT0S was repeatedly
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