100% agree Mike.
Have never looked up DXCC totals for others.
Contests were to see how many countries I could work.
Been active from my only QTH, a 1/4 acre city lot, for
30+ years solely to compete against myself. Obtained
#1 honor roll in 2015, but quickly realized that 160m
was the true
"Can I claim a 5000 mile 2m QSO by remotely operating a
station 4999 miles away that can communicate with the DX station in the
same village?"
This is getting a bit silly.
If you operate a remote station - it doesn't matter where you are sitting -
it matters where your radio is,
Many people
I agree with Mark. Can I claim a 5000 mile 2m QSO by remotely operating a
station 4999 miles away that can communicate with the DX station in the
same village?
Ken WA8JXM
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 9:35 AM lmlangenfeld wrote:
> The fundamental questions seem to be: What is the purpose of a DX
Here you go:
http://www.hamstuff.com/QView/qslholders.html
73 de Lee, AA4GA
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 5:37 PM Steve Harrison wrote:
> On 2/6/2024 1:34 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> > Because of what I view as this abuse of the Bureau, I stopped sending
> > JA cards about ten years ago.
>
> Five years
On 2/6/2024 1:34 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
Because of what I view as this abuse of the Bureau, I stopped sending
JA cards about ten years ago.
Five years ago, when I was first beginning to finally accumulate paper
cards for my finally-applied-for-first DXCC, thanks to OQRS (in the end,
I did have
On 2/6/2024 12:01 PM, Richard McLachlan wrote:
I keep a list of countries that I have worked for my own satisfaction
but I don’t bother with confirmations and don’t even know what LOTW is.
When I was a wee lad, 65 years ago, a QSL card, mailed at our own
expense, was "the final courtesy of a
I have no wish to apply for any awards and actually have no idea what the DXCC
rules are anyway. I think I got 160m WAC in 1962 when I was a lad though. I
keep a list of countries that I have worked for my own satisfaction but I don’t
bother with confirmations and don’t even know what LOTW is.
_
Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
I guess I'm the only topband guy that hasn't commented on this yet, so here
goes.
I've been doing this DX thing for over 65 years now. Other than WAS on
2-meters (never accomplished) DXCC has been my sole focus; no zones, islands,
counties, etc. The holy grail, Top of the Honor Roll, has
Yes, it think it is possible to compete with yourself even in a sport
like boxing. The point is that not everyone is going to be Mike Tyson or
Mohammad Ali. That doesn't mean that you don't strive to win. It means
that you put losing to a better fighter in perspective. You train hard,
work on
Of course you can. It's called shadow boxing!
-Original Message-
From: Topband On Behalf Of
VE6WZ_Steve
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 9:37 AM
To: uy0zg
Cc: Michael Tope ; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: remotes
> I wonder, is it also possible to compete with yours
> I wonder, is it also possible to compete with yourself in boxing? :-(
Baaa-h-h…..ok, I give Nick UY0ZG a knockout for that comment!
Very well said Nick.
And indeed reading the posts on this thread, it seems what most guys are doing,
including myself, is choosing not to enter the
The original idea is to compete with yourself..
In this case, there is no need to summarize the results of the
contests...
I wonder, is it also possible to compete with yourself in boxing?
:-(
---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
Michael Tope писал(а) 2024-02-06 16:42:
People
People are driven by different things. For instance, I would be lying if
I claimed I wasn't competitively driven. And I can tell you that at
points in my life it has caused me to "lose perspective". Have I been
overly enthusiastic with the drive to my Alpha 91 amplifier on occasion?
Yes. Have
The fundamental questions seem to be: What is the purpose of a DX QSO? What
does a DX contact signify?In my book, three things:(1) The ability to assemble
a station capable of making the contact;(2) An understanding of propagation
sufficient to identify and exploit the path; and(3) Sufficient
Actually by “remotes” I meant listening to RX on other continents.
I know only one guy in Ukraine who manages his station via the Internet
(it is 20 km away from him).
---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua
uy0zg via Topband писал(а) 2024-02-05 22:32:
Hi
This topic has been discussed
But in reality everything is much more complicated. We talked here in
the reflector and went our separate ways..
For example, someone on this list honestly earned 300 countries :
http://www.arrl.org/system/dxcc/view/DXCC-160M-20240206-USLetter.pdf
He's been working on this for decades. And
I knew it was all over many years ago when I worked a 20dB/9 Italian station
around Sunrise here in one 160m contest. (1pm in Italy)
I have never applied for DXCC. I know what I worked and keep track of it
here locally. I am the only person who really
cares what all the numbers are and
ry (ENTITY...) when one came on the air?
I'll never tell, hi hi.
73, Kevin K3OX
- Original Message -
From: "Charles Morrison"
To: "topband"
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 8:45:08 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Remotes
* If you want to "fix it", petition to chang
25 to 59 years ago, I signed portable when operating away from home, and
was happy and even proud to do so (usually). Today... not so much, since
it lengthens my callsign so much. Of course, in the old CD parties,
signing portable never slowed K2EIU/5 down much; he still came out on
top more
The topic of remotes has been covered on this channel as much as FT8. In
reality it is the demise of DXCC Award that is the issue.
I for one operate a private remote along with several others and they
are not for hire. :) Two years ago as part of the K0RF multi-multi team
we operated remotely
Why is it important what someone else does? Doesn't our fulfillment come
from what **we** do?
I admit, I'm not a competitive person. I prefer to be amazed at what I can
do with my own skills, including the antenna I experiment with,
Someone else blows $50,000 on an antenna and works a weak 9K2
"*I'm still stuck in the 1970's with my Drake line.*"
Nothing wrong with that. :-)
Tree N6TR
On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 5:45 PM Charles Morrison <
charles.morrison.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> * If you want to "fix it", petition to change DXCC to read:*
>
> * "4-digit GRID SQUARE" -or- *
>
> *
* If you want to "fix it", petition to change DXCC to read:*
* "4-digit GRID SQUARE" -or- *
* "Same State" -or- *
*"Same Antenna for all contacts"*
* -or- "wearing the same clothes as you wore for your first confirmed
country" *
*instead of "within your country."*
*Then the people who are
Jeff Reynolds
Hans Hjelmström wrote:
Hams seems not to carethere is not a single sound on qrg,BUT Hams seems to
be happy to push a finger and let the computer make a so called qso for them.
Lets see . is your finger on the key ??
FT8 has opened up the world on my 1/4 acre city lot in
wrote:
>
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:57:26 -0800
> From: Steve Harrison
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Topband: Remotes
>
>> This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from
>> your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX while prev
Ed,
Thats a consequence, not intent.
my 2c. I really don't care much but can see the issue.
73
Dave NZ3M
From: Topband on behalf of
sawye...@earthlink.net
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 12:49 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Remotes
Steve
Hi
This topic has been discussed several times already. ARRL pays no
attention and continues its business. There is a saying "And Vasily
(that’s the cat’s name) listens and eats..."
But there is always a way out - you need to intensify your daily work at
160 and enjoy the process. I
On 2/5/2024 8:57 AM, Steve Harrison wrote:
This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from
your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX wile preventing deserving
locals operating from their home stations from working same DX, is
abominable and just plain unethical.
I
Hans (PA5MW) … you nailed it with your comment:
“No We all have to do it our own way and let the other do it their way,BUT
dxcc is gone for ever as an important award.”
I don’t even update my DXCC totals anymore as it no longer represents an
accomplishment that I can share and enjoy with fellow
Hans … you nailed it with your comment:
“No We all have to do it our own way and let the other do it their way,BUT
dxcc is gone for ever as an important award.”
I don’t even update my DXCC totals anymore as it no longer represents an
accomplishment that I can share and enjoy with fellow
l to some extend and worse: endorse bad incentives by mixing
fake hamradio “ efforts” in oldskool categories.
73
Mark PA5MW
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Steve Harrison
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2024 17:58
To:topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Remotes
This growing practice of hiring a remot
Well,
Topband and 6 meters is killed by FT 8 anyway.
Hams seems not to carethere is not a single sound on qrg,BUT Hams seems to
be happy to push a finger and let the computer make a so called qso for them.
Also the RIB business is as crazy. Having a station on a place,and operators
all
Hi Steve,
The horse has left the barn. I have lost a bit of enthusiasm ever since
Maine became a hotspot for 160M into Europe a number of years ago.
There are so many "killer" remote stations in the state now. There is no
way I can really compete against it and it is very dis heartening to
The art of working DX has been going downhill for years. I would not allow
spotting.
Mike N2MS
> On 02/05/2024 1:11 PM EST David Raymond wrote:
>
>
> We've seen the same thing the past few days with people using RHR to
> work the current 7O2WX operation. Of course, I'm sure they will be
On 2/5/2024 10:11 AM, David Raymond wrote:
We've seen the same thing the past few days with people using RHR to
work the current 7O2WX operation. Of course, I'm sure they will be
claiming it for their DXCC, which at one time was the world's most
prestigious and sought after amateur radio award.
February 2024 17:58
To:topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Remotes
This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from
your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX wile preventing deserving
locals operating from their home stations from working same DX, is
abominable and just
Steve, I thought that train left the station about 10 years ago. Remote
stations DXing is well established. Is it really any different than someone
that used to live in W6 and now lives in W1 that has 9M2 previously worked
and confirmed and didn't restart their 160M DXCC total with the move?
Ed
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 08:57:26 -0800
From: Steve Harrison
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Remotes
>This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from
>your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX while preventing deserving
>locals operating from t
This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from
your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX wile preventing deserving
locals operating from their home stations from working same DX, is
abominable and just plain unethical. I lost what respect I had for a
couple people I
For a number of reasons, I operate my regular Indiana QTH from here in
Montana. Here we have CCRs that limit me to very low invisible stealth
antennas and fewer bands, and being surrounded by mountains 2000 to 5000
feet higher does not help. So for DXCC purposes and for 160 meters I am in
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