Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

Hi, On 5/13/23 18:55, denny.obre...@a-n-o-n-y-m-e.net wrote: What do you do when you have 50 relays and want to add or remove a relay? You must modify 50 torrc files and restart all 50 relays? That seems tedious and unnecessary. I'm trying to find a way to automate this process and I can wrap

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 10:18:29AM -0400, denny.obre...@a-n-o-n-y-m-e.net wrote: > trinity pointard wrote .. > > For an easy example, let's imagine that we let any relay put itself > > into any family. Now suppose the attacker starts three relays A1, A2, > > and A3. Then, since nothing stops the

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

trinity pointard wrote .. > . It's not as easy as having a unique ID, you need to make sure a > relay can't spoof being part of a family, that's why it requires a two > way relationship for now, and will probably use some form of signature > in the future. Why not take advantage of the proof entr

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 5:21 AM Matt Palmer wrote: > > On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 12:55:17PM -0400, denny.obre...@a-n-o-n-y-m-e.net > wrote: > > This has probably been addressed before but why isn't the MyFamily value > > just a single, unique ID? > > > > If I have the relays with the fingerprints "

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

> This has probably been addressed before but why isn't the MyFamily value just > a single, unique ID? There is a proposal to have some way of doing that in the future, but that proposal isn't implemented https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torspec/-/blob/main/proposals/321-happy-families.md .

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 12:55:17PM -0400, denny.obre...@a-n-o-n-y-m-e.net wrote: > This has probably been addressed before but why isn't the MyFamily value > just a single, unique ID? > > If I have the relays with the fingerprints "John", "Jane", and "Alice" and > I want to add "Bob", wouldn't it

[tor-relays] MyFamily

This has probably been addressed before but why isn't the MyFamily value just a single, unique ID? If I have the relays with the fingerprints "John", "Jane", and "Alice" and I want to add "Bob", wouldn't it be simpler (and more logical) to add the unique MyFamily "Smith" to each torrc file than

[tor-relays] MyFamily bridge support

Regarding MyFamily, there's a new MyFamily proposal that will include bridges, please check this thread and spec: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torspec/-/blob/main/proposals/321-happy-families.md https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2021-November/019954.html the related is

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily line commented out but stays valid?

> > Can you send us a link to your relay on Relay Search, and a copy of your > torrc? > > It's hard to debug without detailed information. > > I already filled a ticket and included my torrc there like requested from nick: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/32541 Yesterday i checked t

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily line commented out but stays valid?

1/4/2019 2:26:03 AM > Subject: Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily line commented out but stays valid? > >> Am Di., 22. Okt. 2019 um 19:04 Uhr schrieb : >> On 22.10.2019 18:53, Michael Gerstacker wrote: >> >> > when i comment out the MyFamily line with an # in th

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily line commented out but stays valid?

From: "Michael Gerstacker" To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Sent: 11/4/2019 2:26:03 AM Subject: Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily line commented out but stays valid? Am Di., 22. Okt. 2019 um 19:04 Uhr schrieb : On 22.10.2019 18:53, Michael Gerstacker wrote: > when i comment out the

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily line commented out but stays valid?

Am Di., 22. Okt. 2019 um 19:04 Uhr schrieb : > On 22.10.2019 18:53, Michael Gerstacker wrote: > > > when i comment out the MyFamily line with an # in the torrc on one > > relay it > > seems to be still handled like before. > > > > Hitting x in nyx or waiting a few days or rebooting does not make a

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily line commented out but stays valid?

On 22.10.2019 18:53, Michael Gerstacker wrote: when i comment out the MyFamily line with an # in the torrc on one relay it seems to be still handled like before. Hitting x in nyx or waiting a few days or rebooting does not make any change. Nyx or arm must be called as root to save the config

[tor-relays] MyFamily line commented out but stays valid?

Hi, when i comment out the MyFamily line with an # in the torrc on one relay it seems to be still handled like before. Hitting x in nyx or waiting a few days or rebooting does not make any change. Is this expected? I expected that relay to show as part of no family now and listed as "Alleged Fa

[tor-relays] coswo...@fni.pl Tor Relays MyFamily Configuration

Hello coswo...@fni.pl, thanks for adding 3 more relays, please do not forget to set your MyFamily option in your torrc files. https://torproject.org/relay-guide#ImportantifyourunmorethanoneTorinstance Let us know if you need help with that setting. regards, nusenu https://metrics.torproject.

[tor-relays] ninja.turtle5 Tor Relays MyFamily Configuration

thanks for running Tor relays! Please do not forget to set your "MyFamily" configuration parameter on all your relays, so Tor clients are not at risk of using your relays in multiple positions in a single circuit. https://nusenu.github.io/OrNetStats/endtoend-correlation-groups Some more backgr

[tor-relays] hviv Tor Relays MyFamily Configuration

thanks for running Tor relays! Please do not forget to set your "MyFamily" configuration parameter on all your relays, so Tor clients are not at risk of using your relays in multiple positions in a single circuit. https://nusenu.github.io/OrNetStats/endtoend-correlation-groups Some more backgr

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Vinícius Zavam wrote: > what about those using *only* > PGP key fingerprints as ContactInfo? valid keys, publicly available (with > working email address, and personal info from the admin). > > will these relays be removed from the network, or tagged as "bad" ones?

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

Vinícius Zavam: > considering that MyFamily is perfectly fine, what about those using *only* > PGP key fingerprints as ContactInfo? valid keys, publicly available (with > working email address, and personal info from the admin). > > will these relays be removed from the network, or tagged as "ba

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

On Jan 11, 2018 19:09, "nusenu" wrote: Hi, hi, I'd like to highlight that today the following two sentences requiring ContactInfo and MyFamily for operators running multiple relays got added to the tor manual page [1]: > ContactInfo **must** be set to a working address if you run more tha

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

Charly Ghislain: > If my relay running at ip A is also available, although not advertised, at > ip B, should I bother with MyFamily settings? > > This may happen if the relay is running as service in a docker swarm. If only one of your relays in consensus you do not need to set MyFamily. If you

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

If my relay running at ip A is also available, although not advertised, at ip B, should I bother with MyFamily settings? This may happen if the relay is running as service in a docker swarm. On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Dmitrii Tcvetkov wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:02:42 +0100 > Sebastia

[tor-relays] denetron.com Tor Relays MyFamily Configuration

Hello, thanks for running Tor relays! Please do not forget to set your "MyFamily" configuration parameter on all your relays, so Tor clients are not at risk of using your relays in multiple positions in a single circuit. Some more background: https://hackernoon.com/some-tor-relays-you-might-wan

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:02:42 +0100 Sebastian Hahn wrote: > > On 11. Jan 2018, at 20:44, Dmitrii Tcvetkov > > wrote: > >>>MyFamily **must** be set correctly if you run more than one > >>> relay or bridge. (That is, every relay should list all the others > >>> as described above.) > > > >

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

> On 11. Jan 2018, at 20:44, Dmitrii Tcvetkov wrote: > >>>MyFamily **must** be set correctly if you run more than one >>> relay or bridge. (That is, every relay should list all the others >>> as described above.) > > So if I run some relays and also some bridges I must to specify > unhashed

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

> > MyFamily **must** be set correctly if you run more than one > > relay or bridge. (That is, every relay should list all the others > > as described above.) So if I run some relays and also some bridges I must to specify unhashed fingerprints of the bridges in MyFamily in configs of all my

[tor-relays] MyFamily and ContactInfo fields are required for operators running multiple tor instances

Hi, I'd like to highlight that today the following two sentences requiring ContactInfo and MyFamily for operators running multiple relays got added to the tor manual page [1]: > ContactInfo **must** be set to a working address if you run more than one > relay or bridge. (Really, everyb

[tor-relays] anonymaid tor relays: MyFamily configuration

Hello anonymaid Relay Operator, thanks for running relays. Since you recently added more relays you are now in a position that can potentially harm tor users if you do not set MyFamily (torrc) on all your relays. Please have a look at you MyFamily configuration. https://nusenu.github.io/OrNetSt

[tor-relays] IPonU tor relays: MyFamily configuration

Hello IPonU Relay Operator, thanks for running relays. Since you recently became a tor exit operator you are now in a position that can potentially harm tor users if you do not set your MyFamily on all your relays. Please have a look at you MyFamily configuration. https://nusenu.github.io/OrNet

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily consensus byte savings

> On 2 Aug 2017, at 17:22, grarpamp wrote: > > Consensus could save ~500kB (3%) by clients automatically swapping > MyFamily from config plaintext format to bitmap selection from DA > provided list of recently seen node FP's before publishing descriptor. This change would break existing relay d

[tor-relays] MyFamily consensus byte savings

Consensus could save ~500kB (3%) by clients automatically swapping MyFamily from config plaintext format to bitmap selection from DA provided list of recently seen node FP's before publishing descriptor. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torpro

Re: [tor-relays] BrassHornComms tor relays: 'MyFamily' fixed.

> *should* be sorted now thanks for fixing it! +--++ | nickname | eMyFamilyCount | +--++ | BrassHornRelay06 |17. | | BrassHornExit03 |17. | | BrassHornRelay16 |17. | | BrassHornRelay14 |

Re: [tor-relays] netbackup.gs tor relays - MyFamily fixed.

It looks like Atlas i working normal again. All my nodes are now shown as effective FamilyMember. Many thanks at Nusenu an Alan for giving me a helping Hand, On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, nusenu wrote: > >> I did that, all Fingerprints in every torrc of every node, but i looks > like > >>

Re: [tor-relays] netbackup.gs tor relays - MyFamily fixed.

>> I did that, all Fingerprints in every torrc of every node, but i looks like >> Atlas has a temporary Problem (Backend Error). > > onionoo (atlas' data source) usually updates once an hour but currently > is a bit behind, so if you changed+reloaded your torrc files after > 2017-01-27 13:00 we mi

Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org

"thank you for running a Tor relay" - or in other words - got a spare T-Shirt for you - what’s your size Markus :-) Hopefully you have read here recently this " but imagine if you could get access to some sort of administration panel for OVH/DigitalOcean etc. Co-opting a large number of rela

Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org

> On 20 Jan 2017, at 08:01, Paul wrote: > > Hey, why don’t you just explain to the relay mailing list what it is all > about..? > > Why are you different to "abuse [AT] torworld.org " and where are you > probably the same ? > > What is your idea (business model) behind , why are supporting T

Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org

The funny thing is … while bashing torworld nobody cares that I am on my way to be number one. Please dont mind me, just a rodent passing by …. > On 19 Jan 2017, at 22:01, Paul wrote: > > Hey, why don’t you just explain to the relay mailing list what it is all > about..? > > Why are you diff

Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org

Hey, why don’t you just explain to the relay mailing list what it is all about..? Why are you different to "abuse [AT] torworld.org " and where are you probably the same ? What is your idea (business model) behind , why are supporting Tor in such a heavy way ? What are your driving forces...?

Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org

On 01/10/2017 10:16 PM, pa011 wrote: >>> Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, >>> online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on >>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operators.txt >> So they are not setting MyFamily proper

Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org

Am 10.01.2017 um 21:01 schrieb nusenu: > > > pa011: >> Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, >> online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on >> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operators.txt > > > https://github.com

Re: [tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org

pa011: > Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, > online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operators.txt https://github.com/ornetstats/stats writes: > Relays are aggregated based

[tor-relays] 'MyFamily' .... torworld.org

Hi nusenu, thank you for your daily work about "MyFamily". Could you explain please why names like torworld.org, torservers.net, online de, etc. are not aggregated in one position on https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operators.txt Would you judge torworld.or

[tor-relays] MyFamily updated

Am 26.12.2016 um 14:53 schrieb nusenu: > > > Thanks for fixing it! > > +---++ > | nickname | eMyFamilyCount | > +---++ > | NeelTorRelay1 | 4. | > | NeelTorExitUSWest | 4. | > | NeelTorExitCZ

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily update required

pa011: > How can I best find out which ones bring me on your second one? - search for your all your relays on atlas.torproject.org. - open every of your relays in a new tab - look for orange colored family members (they represent misconfigured/asymmetric configurations) if there are none, mak

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily update required

Hi nusenu, thanks for your great work - lets assume for a second I would be with several relays on both of you lists: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/main_exit_operators.txt https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ornetstats/stats/master/o/potentially_dangerous_relaygroups

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily format

> On 29 Oct 2015, at 14:48, Green Dream wrote: > > The correct format for MyFamily is documented here: > https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#MultipleRelays > > > I'm not sure how important it is to set at this point though?

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily format

The correct format for MyFamily is documented here: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#MultipleRelays I'm not sure how important it is to set at this point though? https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/6676 ___ tor-relays mailing list

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily format

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Just remove the parenthesis from that line and all should work fine. Make it look like this: MyFamily $A401E765D8B24057C3D91109D3C3E8D9E4B8BEAE,$68F162C50F22205FB3B728ACE6747 0B17D7430D6 On 10/29/2015 12:44 AM, starfire wrote: > MyFamily $(A401E76

[tor-relays] MyFamily format

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I have tried entering the following in torrc file: MyFamily $(A401E765D8B24057C3D91109D3C3E8D9E4B8BEAE), $(68F162C50F22205FB3B728ACE67470B17D7430D6) (all on one line) with and without dollar signs, commas, spaces after the comma, etc. What