Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:09 PM, frank kearns fxk1...@yahoo.com wrote: I have TOR icon installed on my desktop.  After clicking it, the onion goes from yellow to green and a popup says 'Welcome to the TOR.  Now I need help getting to sites like Silk Road.  The isn't a spot to type it in like

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread tor324890
On Tuesday, 03 April, 2012 at 21:09:08 BST, frank kearns wrote: I have TOR icon installed on my desktop.  After clicking it, the onion goes from yellow to green and a popup says 'Welcome to the TOR.  Now I need help getting to sites like Silk Road.  The isn't a spot to type it in like Google

[tor-talk] Absence of digital signature of TBB sources

2012-04-04 Thread James Brown
Hello, Very sorry for creating a new topic, but that issue still don't resolve. As I wrote earlier ( https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2012-March/023755.html ) there is no digital signature of the latest sources code of the TBB. Please, see here :

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:45, Runa A. Sandvik runa.sand...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, no one on this list is going to help you get access to Silk Road. The Tor Project site has a rather pathetic (although quite extensive and doubtless useful for propaganda purposes) Who Uses Tor? section [1], a

Re: [tor-talk] Absence of digital signature of TBB sources

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 13:44, Robert Ransom rransom.8...@gmail.com wrote: There probably shouldn't be any release tarballs for TBB source code. Not twice, at least. I didn't think it was worth posting the previous time, but did no one notice that .gz and .gz.asc are the same file? -- Maxim

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread andrew
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 02:45:48PM +0300, m...@dee.su wrote 1.0K bytes in 26 lines about: : The Tor Project site has a rather pathetic (although quite extensive : and doubtless useful for propaganda purposes) Who Uses Tor? section These are based on real users with real stories. Not everyone

Re: [tor-talk] Absence of digital signature of TBB sources

2012-04-04 Thread andrew
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 10:44:10AM +, rransom.8...@gmail.com wrote 0.7K bytes in 20 lines about: : The official TBBs are built from the sources in Git, not from the : tarballs. There probably shouldn't be any release tarballs for TBB : source code. But anyone should be able to build TBB

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 15:23, and...@torproject.is wrote: These are based on real users with real stories. Not everyone wants their name tied to their Tor activities for posterity. I also hope that you don't mind me asking, because lacking reliable survey data, you seem to be in a unique

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread tor324890
On Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 at 10:43:21 BST, Runa A. Sandvik wrote: I have TOR icon installed on my desktop.  After clicking it, the onion goes from yellow to green and a popup says 'Welcome to the TOR.  Now I need help getting to sites like Silk Road.  The isn't a spot to type it in like

Re: [tor-talk] websites

2012-04-04 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:20 PM, frank kearns fxk1...@yahoo.com wrote: I installed TOR on my computer and got the green onion .  The screen says I'm connected to TOR but I don't see where to enter websites I want to access.  Can anyone help?  Many thanks See

Re: [tor-talk] Absence of digital signature of TBB sources

2012-04-04 Thread Sebastian Hahn
On Apr 4, 2012, at 2:34 PM, and...@torproject.is wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 10:44:10AM +, rransom.8...@gmail.com wrote 0.7K bytes in 20 lines about: : The official TBBs are built from the sources in Git, not from the : tarballs. There probably shouldn't be any release tarballs for

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Andreas Krey
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:45:48 +, Maxim Kammerer wrote: ... * Circumventing a state-wide firewall * Paranoid people in developed countries * Small-scale trading of illegal drugs * Viewing images and videos of pedophilia Normal people in developed countries who use tor to a)

Re: [tor-talk] Tor traffic disguised as Skype video calls to fool repressive governments

2012-04-04 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
This is awesome! I also found the related Winter and Lindskog China GFC/Tor analysis to be utterly fascinating (and apparently most of you know about it, and I don't!): http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.0447 write-up: http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27697/ Abstract: Not only the free web is

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Sebastian G. bastik.tor
tor324...@rainslide.net, 04.04.2012 15:53: On Wednesday, 04 April, 2012 at 10:43:21 BST, Runa A. Sandvik wrote: I have TOR icon installed on my desktop. After clicking it, the onion goes from yellow to green and a popup says 'Welcome to the TOR. Now I need help getting to sites like Silk

[tor-talk] Tor build failed - can't find libevent..

2012-04-04 Thread Airosoβicz fb .
Hello everyone, I go by the name of Air0s this is my first post to the list so pls bear with me.. I've got a problem building Tor from source which has to do with libevent.. Check-out the response I got from Nick Mathewson.. Also downloaded the 0.2.2.35 0.2.3.13-alpha sources but again 2

Re: [tor-talk] Absence of digital signature of TBB sources

2012-04-04 Thread Erinn Clark
* Robert Ransom rransom.8...@gmail.com [2012:04:04 10:44 +]: On 2012-04-04, James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Very sorry for creating a new topic, but that issue still don't resolve. As I wrote earlier (

Re: [tor-talk] Tor build failed - can't find libevent..

2012-04-04 Thread Robert Ransom
On 2012-04-04, Airosoβicz fb. airosov...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I go by the name of Air0s this is my first post to the list so pls bear with me.. I've got a problem building Tor from source which has to do with libevent.. # pkg_version -v | grep libevent libevent2-2.0.16 Oh,

Re: [tor-talk] Designing a secure Tor box for safe web browsing?

2012-04-04 Thread intrigeri
Hi, Preamble: I'm still not convinced the benefits of the Live amnesic host OS + Tor routing VM + desktop VM approach are worth the energy we would need to move Tails to this model, but I do find it interesting to go on a bit with the thought experiment, and to explore the limits of this idea.

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
There's been research by a CU Boulder team and Yoshi Kohno to this effect. You can google it. best, Joe On Wednesday, April 4, 2012, Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 18:26, Andreas Krey a.k...@gmx.de javascript:; wrote: Normal people in developed countries who use tor to a)

Re: [tor-talk] Tor traffic disguised as Skype video calls to fool repressive governments

2012-04-04 Thread J.C. Denton
Does anyone know where I can download this tool? I can't find it anywhere. Also, how should I configure it if I am running Tor, Advanced Tor, and 3 proxies and an IP spoofer? From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall joeh...@gmail.com To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Sent:

Re: [tor-talk] Tor traffic disguised as Skype video calls to fool repressive governments

2012-04-04 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 02:13:00PM -0700, J.C. Denton wrote: Does anyone know where I can download this tool? I can't find it anywhere. The short answer is that SkypeMorph is not ready for actual usage yet. It is still at the research project stage. It's great that researchers are working on

Re: [tor-talk] Tor traffic disguised as Skype video calls to fool repressive governments

2012-04-04 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 02:51:44PM -0700, J.C. Denton wrote: thank you for your guidance. what exactly should I run with Tor until SkypeMorph is released? I have 3 portable browsers and all 3 register different ip's when i go to www.whatismyipaddress.com/ should I only run TOR and AdvancedTOR

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 18:26, Andreas Krey a.k...@gmx.de wrote: Normal people in developed countries who use tor to  a) provide the background noise for the users that need protection,  b) use it as a way around lack of WLAN security or other funny     ideas of mobile interneter providers,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor traffic disguised as Skype video calls to fool repressive governments

2012-04-04 Thread J.C. Denton
thank you for your guidance. what exactly should I run with Tor until SkypeMorph is released? I have 3 portable browsers and all 3 register different ip's when i go to www.whatismyipaddress.com/ should I only run TOR and AdvancedTOR with tppFirefox and nothing else?

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Jon
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 18:26, Andreas Krey a.k...@gmx.de wrote: Normal people in developed countries who use tor to  a) provide the background noise for the users that need protection,  b) use it as a way around lack of WLAN

Re: [tor-talk] Designing a secure Tor box for safe web browsing?

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 23:46, intrigeri intrig...@boum.org wrote: Maybe your conclusions on VM speed are simply too tightly bound to QEMU? That's probably the case — QEMU is much slower than VMware and VirtualBox even when virtualization extensions are available. The reason I only tested QEMU

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 06:21:58PM -0400, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: There's been research by a CU Boulder team and Yoshi Kohno to this effect. You can google it. best, Joe There has been some research on what Tor *traffic* is, but the methodology soundness is always a question. The question

Re: [tor-talk] Absence of digital signature of TBB sources

2012-04-04 Thread andrew
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:15:35PM -0300, er...@torproject.org wrote 2.0K bytes in 62 lines about: : The official TBBs are built from the sources in Git, not from the : tarballs. There probably shouldn't be any release tarballs for TBB : source code. : Agreed. As for now, I've re-signed the

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 03:57:55AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote: Table 2 (with Germany at the top) in [1] does seem to suggest that ?Privacy enthusiasts? represent a significant proportion of Tor users. Notice that this paper is quite old. Since then Iran, has hit the #2 country using Tor mark:

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Ted Smith
On Thu, 2012-04-05 at 03:57 +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 01:45, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: There has been some research on what Tor *traffic* is, but the methodology soundness is always a question. The question here though is what the breakdown of Tor

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 01:45, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: There has been some research on what Tor *traffic* is, but the methodology soundness is always a question. The question here though is what the breakdown of Tor *users* is. Nobody's done a scientifically valid study, mostly

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 04:25, and...@torproject.is wrote: You could also infer things from this table, https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?table=direct-usersstart=2012-01-06end=2012-04-05#direct-users-table The paper has the advantage of correlating different statistics (including

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread andrew
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 03:57:55AM +0300, m...@dee.su wrote 1.1K bytes in 24 lines about: : Table 2 (with Germany at the top) in [1] does seem to suggest that : “Privacy enthusiasts” represent a significant proportion of Tor users. : Perhaps a 2nd place is deserved (higher than the “Loonies”) in

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 04:14, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: For what it's worth, it's the phrasing of assertions like this that make people call your posts here trolling. Perhaps I should have been more specific: the “Militaries” section on the “Tor users page”, as it is formulated,

Re: [tor-talk] access sites

2012-04-04 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 04:15, Ted Smith te...@riseup.net wrote: Yes, with Turkey, Russia, Italy, and China just below Germany in that same table. I suppose people trying to use the Internet anonymously in those countries are just privacy enthusiasts? I assume that it's different for each