Re: [tor-talk] tor-talk Digest, Vol 46, Issue 19

2014-11-07 Thread Olivier Revollat
Cool I didn't knew subuser, i'll take a look :) 2014-11-06 20:55 GMT+01:00 bm-2ctjsegdfzqngqwuqjswro6jrwlc9b3...@bitmessage.ch: Excellent. Thanks! I'm not sure if you are familiar with a more friendly sandbox use of docker (subuser), e.g. with an easy firefox setup preconfigured:

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Jon Tullett
On 7 November 2014 05:39, Juan juan@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:51:15 -0500 Jim Smith jimsmi...@safe-mail.net wrote: Usually you won't go through the trouble of using Tor unless your privacy is being attacked. Once you start using Tor it's easier to justify surveillance

[tor-talk] Darknet Sites Shutdown

2014-11-07 Thread spaceman
Hi, http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29950946 Does anyone know if this was user or operator error, or vulnerabilities in application used that the FBI know about and are actively exploiting? Basically does anyone how they managed to take so many 'hidden' services? I can't believe that

Re: [tor-talk] Hidden Services v2 proposal (nickm)

2014-11-07 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 6:01 AM, bm-2cuqbqhfvdhuy34zcpl3pngkplueeer...@bitmessage.ch wrote: Hi, For the record, regarding the new proposal to have ecc keys and longer names (unhashed) as hidden service hostnames as opposite to SHA1, what other changes will this proposal make to the hidden

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Öyvind Saether
The BBC understands that the raid represented both a technological breakthrough - with police using new techniques to track down the physical location of dark net servers - as well as seeing an unprecedented level of international co-operation among law enforcement agencies.

Re: [tor-talk] Darknet Sites Shutdown

2014-11-07 Thread Lars Luthman
On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 12:52 +, spaceman wrote: I can't believe that 400 sites all made stupid mistakes thus revealing their identity. Therefore they must have had an exploit that they are using to take down all these sites (either in tor or some other application). The article claims

Re: [tor-talk] Darknet Sites Shutdown

2014-11-07 Thread Öyvind Saether
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29950946 Does anyone know if this was user or operator error, or vulnerabilities in application used that the FBI know about and are actively exploiting? Basically does anyone how they managed to take so many 'hidden' services? I can't believe that 400

[tor-talk] So much for using ixquick and Startpage: Now broken w/Tor

2014-11-07 Thread Öyvind Saether
https://ixquick.com/do/search The Ixquick service does not presently work when used through proxy/anonymization services such as Tor. To use Ixquick, please temporarily disable this service. For added privacy you can always use the encrypted version of Ixquick at https://ixquick.com/ -- this

Re: [tor-talk] Darknet Sites Shutdown

2014-11-07 Thread Elrippo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Maybe, if i may pop in, it's just all about an user exploit and the money ( bitcoin ) travel. Remember, 85% of user systems are MS based, and we all do know that this system was not built with privacy for the user mind. If I can watch what my

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
The BBC understands that the raid represented both a technological breakthrough - with police using new techniques to track down the physical location of dark net servers - as well as seeing an unprecedented level of international co-operation among law enforcement agencies.

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread mroq qorm
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Öyvind Saether oyvi...@everdot.org wrote: The BBC understands that the raid represented both a technological breakthrough - with police using new techniques to track down the physical location of dark net servers - as well as seeing an unprecedented level of

[tor-talk] Tor and Anonymous browsing etc.

2014-11-07 Thread Notenlightened
hi. I recently heard about all these Tor Browsers and Anonymous file sharing etc.. Im soo confused. I dont think I have the patience to dload another darn protection, IP blocker etc. Any advice? I need this dumbed down for me lol. Codes, this and that gives me a headache. I realize it takes many

Re: [tor-talk] Cloak Tor Router

2014-11-07 Thread Aymeric Vitte
And 5 do not send anything outside, no? Usually you can restrict with your ISP box but can you trust it? What happens if you connect directly your PC to the Cloak with a cable? Maybe the concept of several wifis is good but I don't see it very usable, not sure what would be the security

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Anonymous browsing etc.

2014-11-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
hi. I recently heard about all these Tor Browsers and Anonymous file sharing etc.. Im soo confused. I dont think I have the patience to dload another darn protection, IP blocker etc. Any advice? I need this dumbed down for me lol. Codes, this and that gives me a headache. I realize it takes

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Anonymous browsing etc.

2014-11-07 Thread Notenlightened
hi derric. Im wanting to download(torrents and programs) and browse whatever i want Annonymously. I have Tor Browsr but all the intructions lead me to download after download. I realize its important but its so confusing. Codes, tails, onions lol, blockers, HTTL, IP addresses, bandwidth, open

Re: [tor-talk] Cloak Tor Router

2014-11-07 Thread hellekin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/07/2014 01:29 PM, Aymeric Vitte wrote: - force ssl through Tor, non ssl outside *** Is that what you meant? Can you explain why? == hk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Anonymous browsing etc.

2014-11-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
hi derric. Im wanting to download(torrents and programs) and browse whatever i want Annonymously. I have Tor Browsr but all the intructions lead me to download after download. I realize its important but its so confusing. Codes, tails, onions lol, blockers, HTTL, IP addresses, bandwidth,

Re: [tor-talk] Cloak Tor Router

2014-11-07 Thread Aymeric Vitte
Le 07/11/2014 18:18, hellekin a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/07/2014 01:29 PM, Aymeric Vitte wrote: - force ssl through Tor, non ssl outside *** Is that what you meant? Can you explain why? Yes but again we are not talking about strong anonymity here

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Juan
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 13:04:38 +0200 Jon Tullett jon.tull...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 November 2014 05:39, Juan juan@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:51:15 -0500 Jim Smith jimsmi...@safe-mail.net wrote: Usually you won't go through the trouble of using Tor unless your privacy is

Re: [tor-talk] Cloak Tor Router

2014-11-07 Thread Aymeric Vitte
Le 07/11/2014 19:07, Aymeric Vitte a écrit : Le 07/11/2014 18:18, hellekin a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/07/2014 01:29 PM, Aymeric Vitte wrote: - force ssl through Tor, non ssl outside *** Is that what you meant? Can you explain why? Yes but again we

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Anonymous browsing etc.

2014-11-07 Thread Notenlightened
Thank you so much Derric. You explained very well. I have Tor Browser and The Onion program. Anything i need to do to the settings on either of those?? Do i need anything else? Final question, what do you recommend for downloading movies,music etc?? I download alot lol. I like sites with lots of

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Öyvind Saether
That is possible, but I'm not sure I'm fully following. Suppose that some off line dealer has his phone tapped, and then he starts selling through a market like silk road. What of it? Why would that lead in any way to finding out who the hidden service's owner/admin is? The

Re: [tor-talk] Cloak Tor Router

2014-11-07 Thread Aymeric Vitte
Le 07/11/2014 19:24, Aymeric Vitte a écrit : Le 07/11/2014 19:07, Aymeric Vitte a écrit : Le 07/11/2014 18:18, hellekin a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/07/2014 01:29 PM, Aymeric Vitte wrote: - force ssl through Tor, non ssl outside *** Is that what you

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Anonymous browsing etc.

2014-11-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
Thank you so much Derric. You explained very well. I have Tor Browser and The Onion program. Anything i need to do to the settings on either of those?? Do i need anything else? Final question, what do you recommend for downloading movies,music etc?? I download alot lol. I like sites with

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
obvious cointelpro: Could you please stop calling people that. Its rude. This is something we want to keep for ourselves, he said. The way we do this, we can't share with the whole world, because we want to do it again and again and again. That is somewhat sinister sounding, it also seems

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Anonymous browsing etc.

2014-11-07 Thread Notenlightened
oh i see. Stupid thing to ask.. sorry. Im going to uninstall and start all over. I can research how to do what i want. Thank u so much. What are your opinions of peer blocks and such? On 11/7/14, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: Thank you so much Derric. You explained very

Re: [tor-talk] So much for using ixquick and Startpage: Now broken w/Tor

2014-11-07 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 07/11/14 15:50 +0100 - Öyvind Saether: Google also blocking Tor - like they have been doing for a long, long time. Google does work for me, from time to time. If it works, at least two Captcha's though. -- Rejo Zenger E r...@zenger.nl | P +31(0)639642738 | W https://rejo.zenger.nl T

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/8/14, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: obvious cointelpro: Could you please stop calling people that. Its rude. As rude as it may be, is it wise to keep people alert and on their toes, rather than lolled into a false sense of 'perceived security'? Think if you yourself

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/8/14, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 11/8/14, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: obvious cointelpro: Could you please stop calling people that. Its rude. As rude as it may be, is it wise to keep people alert and on their toes, rather than lolled into a

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
obvious cointelpro: Could you please stop calling people that. Its rude. As rude as it may be, is it wise to keep people alert and on their toes, rather than lolled into a false sense of 'perceived security'? Think if you yourself had 'something important' to communicate with the world,

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Peter Grace
Hopefully we are all familiar with the Golden Rule and are civil in our discussions. If you are an American - your rights are in danger endangering your descendants. http://petergraceonline.com/2014/11/06/help-save-lives/

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Juan
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:07:43 -0500 Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: obvious cointelpro: Could you please stop calling people that. Its rude. As rude as it may be, is it wise to keep people alert and on their toes, rather than lolled into a false sense of 'perceived

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Juan
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:38:21 +0100 Öyvind Saether oyvi...@everdot.org wrote: That is possible, but I'm not sure I'm fully following. Suppose that some off line dealer has his phone tapped, and then he starts selling through a market like silk road. What of it? Why would that lead in

Re: [tor-talk] Namecalling and Paranoia (was Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down)

2014-11-07 Thread Derric Atzrott
obvious cointelpro: Could you please stop calling people that. Its rude. As rude as it may be, is it wise to keep people alert and on their toes, rather than lolled into a false sense of 'perceived security'? Think if you yourself had 'something important' to communicate with the world,

Re: [tor-talk] So much for using ixquick and Startpage: Now broken w/Tor

2014-11-07 Thread Soul Plane
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Öyvind Saether oyvi...@everdot.org wrote: https://startpage.com/do/search is also broken. It is interesting how they decided that today (the day after those darknet raids) would be a good day to ban Tor-users. Does anyone know anyone at startpage, maybe you

Re: [tor-talk] Tor and Anonymous browsing etc.

2014-11-07 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:00:13PM -0500, Derric Atzrott wrote: Final question, what do you recommend for downloading movies,music etc?? I download alot lol. I like sites with lots of options. Fast, secure, etc.. [...] I will just ignore your last question. I'm not going to help you

[tor-talk] Darknets/science vs. GPA/LEA/Law, and playing dirty pool

2014-11-07 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Öyvind Saether oyvi...@everdot.org wrote: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29950946 The BBC understands that the raid represented both a technological breakthrough - with police using new techniques to track down the physical location of dark net servers

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Jay McKinnon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 [Note: I'm not qualified to determine whether this is a hoax.] @loldoxbin claims to have been a part of a group that ran one of the sites taken down (doxbin). At 6:53 on Nov 7 2014, the account began a series of tweets which might give hints as

Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

2014-11-07 Thread Mirimir
On 11/07/2014 03:42 PM, Jay McKinnon wrote: [Note: I'm not qualified to determine whether this is a hoax.] @loldoxbin claims to have been a part of a group that ran one of the sites taken down (doxbin). At 6:53 on Nov 7 2014, the account began a series of tweets which might give hints as to

Re: [tor-talk] Darknets/science vs. GPA/LEA/Law, and playing dirty pool

2014-11-07 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Derric Atzrott datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote: warrant request for Benthall and didn't see anything in that besides Benthall being stupid and the police being clever. Reread it. First they found the server, then their man, then trolled up a bunch of stuff