Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-15 Thread panoramix.druida
For the record. I did some tests with Mumble and it works great. The test where made from Linux and with Plumble + Orbot in Android. I can conect to the onion service when I start Mumble with torify, but when I try to configure proxy socks it doesn't work: hostname: 127.0.0.1 port: 9050 TCP only

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-10 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:43 AM, panoramix.druida wrote: >> https://www.onioncat.org/ >> https://github.com/david415/onionvpn > So my understunding is that I could use any IP protocol and communicate with > each other as if we where in a LAN. Is that right? Yes, even raw IPv6 (protocol 0), nmap,

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-10 Thread Mirimir
On 05/10/2018 01:35 PM, panoramix.druida wrote: > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > El 10 de mayo de 2018 7:41 PM, Mirimir escribió: > [] >> However, keep in mind that VoIP is fundamentally inconsistent with >> >> anonymity. Because voice analysis is so effective. And because it's v

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-10 Thread panoramix.druida
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ El 10 de mayo de 2018 7:41 PM, Mirimir escribió: [] > However, keep in mind that VoIP is fundamentally inconsistent with > > anonymity. Because voice analysis is so effective. And because it's very > > hard to obfuscate voice enough to frustrate analysis.

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-10 Thread Mirimir
On 05/10/2018 01:43 AM, panoramix.druida wrote: > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > El 9 de mayo de 2018 5:22 PM, grarpamp escribió: > >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Nathan Freitas nat...@freitas.net wrote: >> >>> In general, the issue with VoIP over Tor, is that Tor only supports TCP

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-10 Thread Nathaniel Suchy (Lunorian)
P2P VOIP solutions do exist. I personally prefer to use a trusted Mumble server over Tor. panoramix.druida: > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > El 9 de mayo de 2018 5:22 PM, grarpamp escribió: > >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Nathan Freitas nat...@freitas.net wrote: >> >>> In general

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-10 Thread panoramix.druida
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ El 9 de mayo de 2018 5:22 PM, grarpamp escribió: > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Nathan Freitas nat...@freitas.net wrote: > > > In general, the issue with VoIP over Tor, is that Tor only supports TCP, > > > > and not UDP, which most voice and video services

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-09 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Nathan Freitas wrote: > In general, the issue with VoIP over Tor, is that Tor only supports TCP, > and not UDP, which most voice and video services require. And until tor supports UDP, or even more generally over say IPv6 transport internally, you can do exactly t

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-09 Thread Nathan Freitas
On 05/09/2018 10:57 AM, Nathan Freitas wrote: > > > On 05/09/2018 09:27 AM, panoramix.druida wrote: >> Hi I would like to know your thoughts about anonymity and voip. I would like >> to know if it is possible to hide the fact that Alice is talking to Bob and >> that content of the communicati

Re: [tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-09 Thread Nathan Freitas
On 05/09/2018 09:27 AM, panoramix.druida wrote: > Hi I would like to know your thoughts about anonymity and voip. I would like > to know if it is possible to hide the fact that Alice is talking to Bob and > that content of the communication is secure of course. > > I see that Whonix people hav

[tor-talk] Anonymity and Voip

2018-05-09 Thread panoramix.druida
Hi I would like to know your thoughts about anonymity and voip. I would like to know if it is possible to hide the fact that Alice is talking to Bob and that content of the communication is secure of course. I see that Whonix people have thought about this before and have a nice Wiki page: http