[tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-04 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, just in case if someone is wondering who caused this month's little spike in relaycount on 2015-05-01: https://metrics.torproject.org/versions.html The IP addresses are associated with a German University [1], maybe they are doing some research

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-04 Thread I
So no t-shirts either! :-) > > > - - no contact > - - no family > > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread Sophie Hassfurther
Hi, nusenu: > just in case if someone is wondering who caused this month's little > spike in relaycount on 2015-05-01: > https://metrics.torproject.org/versions.html > > The IP addresses are associated with a German University > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RWTH_Aachen_University, maybe > they ar

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread Asya Mitseva
Hi, > nusenu: > just in case if someone is wondering who caused this month's little > spike in relaycount on 2015-05-01: > https://metrics.torproject.org/versions.html > > The IP addresses are associated with a German University > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RWTH_Aachen_University, maybe > they

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 04:33:24PM +0200, Asya Mitseva wrote: > I am a master student at RWTH Aachen University and I am doing a > research on Tor as a part of my master thesis. I had to start a few > relays for my work and I will keep them running for some period of > time. > > In case of problem

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread l.m
I'm not trying to upset anyone but do we really have to stalk every researcher who adds relays? Honestly, does there need to be a report on x-number of relays were added, constituting a spike this month to date? I mean this purely out of respect for tor-related research worldwide. Engaging in t

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Thanks for coming forward! > I am a master student at RWTH Aachen University and I am doing a > research on Tor as a part of my master thesis. I had to start a > few relays for my work and I will keep them running for some period > of time. > > In

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > I'm not trying to upset anyone but do we really have to stalk every > researcher who adds relays? Honestly, does there need to be a > report on x-number of relays were added, constituting a spike this > month to date? I mean this purely out of

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread l.m
I didn't say wondering about an anomaly is disrespectful. Assuming you have the right bring their relay's to everyone's attention is disrespectful. This is a network around privacy and anonymity after-all. Isn't there a better way to start a witch hunt? Like discovering relay's that do something wr

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread grarpamp
Tor is not some private kingdom. It's an open application used and operated by whoever for whatever. It is absolutely the business of interested users to report, bring attention, interrogate and make lists of relays to use, promote or badexit as desired. And the business of relays to contactinfo, f

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread W . Greenhouse
grarpamp writes: > Tor is not some private kingdom. It's an open application > used and operated by whoever for whatever. It is absolutely > the business of interested users to report, bring attention, > interrogate and make lists of relays to use, promote or badexit as > desired. And the busines

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-05 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:47 PM, W. Greenhouse wrote: > grarpamp writes: > >> Tor is not some private kingdom. It's an open application >> used and operated by whoever for whatever. It is absolutely >> the business of interested users to report, bring attention, >> interrogate and make lists of re

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-06 Thread coderman
On 5/5/15, l.m wrote: > I didn't say wondering about an anomaly is disrespectful. Assuming you > have the right bring their relay's to everyone's attention is > disrespectful. "Dodgson, Dodgson, we've got Dodgson here!" ... in other words, relays are inherently public. more importantly, this i

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-06 Thread l.m
>"Dodgson, Dodgson, we've got Dodgson here!" >... in other words, relays are inherently public. What? did you actually contribute to the conversation? What the hell does that even mean? Fine. Relays are public. The people who operate them are public figures too. To hell with privacy. HS descri

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-06 Thread Andreas Krey
On Wed, 06 May 2015 06:54:27 +, l.m wrote: ... > Fine. Relays are public. They are. > The people who operate them are public > figures too. You're the only one claiming that. Neither did Roger force the Aachen operator out - nobody except for LE even can do that. Andreas -- "Totally triv

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-06 Thread l.m
>relays are inherently public Relays are a machine, an ip, a server, with a public relay descriptor. You ISP has a similar descriptor for your CPE connected to their infrastructure. So the ip you use is public without precaution. Does that automatically make the association of you with that ip an

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-06 Thread l.m
>> The people who operate them are public >> figures too. >You're the only one claiming that. > >Neither did Roger force the Aachen operator >out - nobody except for LE even can do that. I'm pretty sure I defended the researcher's right not to disclose anything. Had nothing been disclosed these r

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-06 Thread l.m
>Pretending an attempt didn't occur to force disclosure doesn't change >the fact that it didn't happen. In before Andreas, that should be didn't->did -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-06 Thread Andreas Krey
On Wed, 06 May 2015 07:24:04 +, l.m wrote: ... > Pretending an attempt didn't occur to force disclosure doesn't change > the fact that it didn't happen. You definintion of 'force' obviously includes asking "how's the weather over there". Andreas -- "Totally trivial. Famous last words." From

Re: [tor-talk] German University signs up 24 tor relays

2015-05-06 Thread W . Greenhouse
"l.m" writes: > You should be grateful for their work, not self-righteous. What the > hell do you think? The university pays for the relays and doesn't have > a code of conduct for student activity using university resource? That > code of conduct somehow doesn't apply to this graduate or their >