Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-18 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/18/2013 9:01 PM, Mysterious Flyer wrote: Um. I am the REAL mysteriousfl...@yahoo.com. I guess it's super-duper easy for a person's user names and passwords to get hacked when accessing e-mail over Tor. I also noticed that someone has been reading my gmails (since they were marked a

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-19 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/19/2013 2:11 AM, adrelanos wrote: scarp: On 2/18/2013 9:01 PM, Mysterious Flyer wrote: Um. I am the REAL mysteriousfl...@yahoo.com. I guess it's super-duper easy for a person's user names and passwords to get hacked when accessing e-mail over Tor. I also noticed that someone has be

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-19 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/19/2013 12:21 PM, adrelanos wrote: Griffin Boyce: I hate to call shenanigans on this, but it seems extremely unlikely that someone would hack your email account and then use it to post to the Tor mailing list. Or any mailing list. Confirmed. What do you mean by confirmed? In "King's Engl

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-19 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/19/2013 7:07 PM, Mysterious Flyer wrote: OK, more information on the circumstances: 1. The whole reason I started up with all this "privacy" and "anonymous" stuff was because someone had hacked my gmail account, and was trying to ruin my life. I happen to know from their IP address that

Re: [tor-talk] TorBrowser update???

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/20/2013 10:47 AM, JerryR wrote: Hi, I'm new to this list, thank you all for your work and efforts; I've been using the TorBrowser for a while now, yesterday I tried to update it (tor-browser-2.3.25-2_en-US.exe), but, the "There is a security update" keeps showing up, I already downlo

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/11/2013 9:51 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: There are some good ones out there, but if you're using Tor to create the account and login, you should know that many have started blocking Tor users (or deactivating their accounts in the case of Yahoo). Size could also be an issue, but if you're delet

Re: [tor-talk] Legal problems: TOR relay & Torrents in .de

2013-02-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/17/2013 11:40 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 04/02/13 12:33, Hendrik Neumann wrote: I've been running an exit node from my home network for ca. a year or so. Now I've receviced mail from 21st Century Fox's lawyers in Germany accusing me of torrenting a movie. Since all I offer

Re: [tor-talk] Email provider for privacy-minded folk

2013-02-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/21/2013 4:58 PM, survivd wrote: Seems like there's a bit of confusion regarding what a bad exit node can and can't do here. For many sites, you can trivially strip the SSL connection request as the exit node, downgrading it to vulnerable plaintext just by using ssl-strip. There'd be no cer

Re: [tor-talk] Mail services: Hotmail / Live, Outlook

2013-03-15 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/15/2013 4:04 PM, grarpamp wrote: Hotmail / Live will lock you out for traveling. Attempts to self recover will create a ticket for human review. They are thus NOT recommended for Tor users. Though untested, presumably this failure extends to their new Outlook service. "It looks like someone

Re: [tor-talk] Mail services: Hotmail / Live, Outlook

2013-03-16 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/16/2013 10:24 AM, Tom Ritter wrote: On 15 March 2013 18:34, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Don't know if this will always work, for all providers, but I have set torrc to use only exit nodes in my country I don't think this should be a recommended practice, because (while you are in th

Re: [tor-talk] Mozilla Persona and Tor

2013-03-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/28/2013 7:08 PM, Mike Perry wrote: As far as I can tell, the email address convention was created for usability reasons, not as a protocol requirement. What does this mean?: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Persona _"4. Best of all, there's *no lock-in*. Developers get a verified

Re: [tor-talk] Cowardice and Hypocrisy

2013-04-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/14/2013 8:54 PM, Andrew F wrote: G riffin... its comments like that which make me wish we had a like button on e-mail. Well said! KMN. List moderators (is there such a thing?) - when this infantile rubbish is over, could you send me an email? Until then, I'm stopping everything. I sig

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/29/2013 12:32 PM, Chris Patti wrote: Tor has a rather severe reputation problem at the moment. Given the recent revelations around malware on the network, and the pervasiveness of pedophilia, I think we should consider a course of action to help boost the network's PR. For one - while nobo

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/29/2013 3:29 PM, Chris Patti wrote: OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling the pedo sites as pedo sites? And once again, please note I am in no way suggesting that *the Tor project* undertake this effort, but that people who operate the hidden directories might c

Re: [tor-talk] Tor's reputation problem with pedo, some easy steps the community could take

2013-04-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/29/2013 4:18 PM, mirimir wrote: On 04/29/2013 08:29 PM, Chris Patti wrote: OK, you're right. That's a bad idea - what about clearly labeling the pedo sites as pedo sites? Maybe Tor-optimized-Firefox needs a default "safe browsing" plugin. Also, maybe at least some pedo, etc .onion sites

Re: [tor-talk] Large search providers banning Tor exists, except for one!

2013-05-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/4/2013 4:04 AM, Simon Brereton wrote: If you search the list archives you will find a substantial report on the issues Google faces, Poor Google. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman

[tor-talk] Is using player like VLC safe alternative to Flash?

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Question of playing Flash vids comes up constantly & explanation given of why it can compromise anonymity in Tor Browser. Anyone done real investigation if using some media players, that handle playing Flash content directly from a URL, are any better at protecting anonymity than Flash Player?

[tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
TBB may have NoScript settings to not have checked "Forbid Flash" because it doesn't contain Flash Player. What about WebGL being blocked by default in NoScript? I thought this was supposed to be a much safer (not a threat to Tor) than Flash? ___ to

[tor-talk] memory cached pages should reload instantly-but DON'T

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
If I understand, TBB disables disk cache & has memory cache enabled. This is the way I do it w/ Fx, because I've got lots of RAM & it's much faster than disk. Normally, going back to a page already visited in Fx is almost instantaneous. Definitely NOT the case in latest stable TBB - or ever.

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 5:27 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote: https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/ "WebGL can reveal information about the video card in use, and high precision timing information can be used to fingerprint the CPU and interpreter speed." [...] The adversary simply renders WebGL,

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 7:05 PM, Andrew F wrote: I am coming in late on this topic and know very little about it, But I have to ask, would it be possible to send fake information? I know that they use many variables to create a mosaic to identify people. So why not change several variables. Create some ran

Re: [tor-talk] memory cached pages should reload instantly-but DON'T

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 8:41 PM, Tom Ritter wrote: Hm, that's an tough question. TBB doesn't modify the FF code very much at all, and the patches are pretty lightweight - they're all listed here: https://gitweb.torproject.org/torbrowser.git/tree/HEAD:/src/current-patches/firefox although some of them do de

Re: [tor-talk] memory cached pages should reload instantly-but DON'T

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 10:56 PM, David Vorick wrote: Are we sure this is a bug? Even when a page is in the cache doesn't it have to communicate with the server to verify that the cache hasn't expired? Perhaps this is what you are experiencing. Good question. What do YOU see, when hitting the back button

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/8/2013 1:57 AM, Lunar wrote: Joe Btfsplk: OK, thanks for detailed reply. Now that the "adversary" has a fingerprint of my machine (therein lies the problem - the data being given out), unless they're the gubment & I'm a bad guy (or living in a represses society), w

Re: [tor-talk] Is using player like VLC safe alternative to Flash?

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 8:46 PM, Tom Ritter wrote: VLC has a lot of stuff going on inside of it. I would not be surprised if there were proxy leaks that might be able to be forced by someone doing something tricky. Say you enter a url to a flash video and the content is intercepted and replaced with an RTS

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/8/2013 3:01 PM, lu...@rankexploits.com wrote: Here's a likely example of what Lunar is talking about. If you visit this link you will be presented a survey form. http://survey.gci.uq.edu.au/survey.php?c=1R9YT8YMZTWF The javascript for that page creates a string listing: 1) every plugin fo

Re: [tor-talk] Is using player like VLC safe alternative to Flash?

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/8/2013 4:53 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote: On 08.05.2013 10:58, Moritz Bartl wrote: Question of playing Flash vids comes up constantly & explanation given of why it can compromise anonymity in Tor Browser. Additionally to what Tom Ritter wrote: If you want to be safe, convert the .flv to a "real

Re: [tor-talk] memory cached pages should reload instantly-but DON'T

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/7/2013 10:56 PM, David Vorick wrote: Are we sure this is a bug? Even when a page is in the cache doesn't it have to communicate with the server to verify that the cache hasn't expired? Perhaps this is what you are experiencing. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Tom Ritter wrote: Hm, that'

Re: [tor-talk] Finger printing

2013-05-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/9/2013 1:48 PM, Mike Perry wrote: You know, all you people who keep asking the same questions over and over again back-to-back in new threads for days on end could try Googling first.. It might be just a tad quicker. See: https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/#fingerprinting

Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not?

2013-05-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/8/2013 3:01 PM, lu...@rankexploits.com wrote: Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 08:57:48 +0200 From: Lunar To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] WebGL forbidden in NoScript but Flash is not? Message-ID: <20130508065748.GA975@loar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This m

[tor-talk] Question on adding TBB UI changes to userChrome.css & fingerprinting

2013-05-10 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I wonder if _instead_ of using addons for certain things in TBB, if the same effect can be achieved by using code in *userChrome.css file*, would that in any way allow pages to gather info on the UI changes, to use for fingerprinting? I know a lot can be detected, but I don't know that a tab p

Re: [tor-talk] Tragedy of the commons.

2013-05-24 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/24/2013 12:39 PM, Chris Patti wrote: I just had to shut my relay down because someone was using it to hijack someone else's Gmail account :\ Dunno how I could get around this other than by blocking port 80, which is kind of the point :) How exactly does their hijacking attempt implicate yo

Re: [tor-talk] DNS provider that does not hijack failures

2013-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/30/2013 6:07 PM, Sean Alexandre wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:42:48PM +0200, Robin Kipp wrote: We use OpenDNS on our network, and I know they provide an info page if someone attempts to browse to a non-existant address. This isn't a big issue normally, but I can see how it's a problem

Re: [tor-talk] DNS provider that does not hijack failures

2013-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/30/2013 8:11 PM, Sean Alexandre wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 07:15:36PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Google? Oh, my. Not ideal, I agree. What would you use, if your ISP's resolvers weren't an option? Also, let's say you don't want to run your own DNS resolver. (Runnin

Re: [tor-talk] DNS provider that does not hijack failures

2013-05-31 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/31/2013 8:54 AM, Robin Kipp wrote: Hi Joe and Sean, thanks a lot for your suggestions and discussion! I have to say Google DNS really isn't an option for me, because I simply don't trust Google. Even if they do have a decent privacy policy for their DNS service, they do store geographic in

Re: [tor-talk] Questions about IT security - can TOR help? Are theyre other systems out there?

2013-06-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/2/2013 7:22 AM, Randolph William Scott wrote: Does Tor browser support a java plugin? No And if you download TOR, are there any insecure parts of the process? No, don't think so. It's a secure site. Any insecurity would likely be in your browser; presence of *possibly* insecure plugins

Re: [tor-talk] Running a Tor exit node on a VPS: does location of node matter?

2013-06-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/5/2013 10:53 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: Hi, Ideally, one would place exits in countries that have little or no exit probability. Little or no exit *probability?* (probability of what?) Do you mean little liability? What would be the point of an exit that's never used?

Re: [tor-talk] [liberationtech] NSA, FBI, Verizon caught red handed spying on US citizens in the US

2013-06-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/7/2013 9:34 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: - Forwarded message from Richard Brooks - Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:20:26 -0400 From: Richard Brooks To: liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] *NSA, FBI, Verizon caught red handed spying on US citizens in the US* Not d

[tor-talk] stop page image_thumb from appearing in tabs

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Must have missed a memo about actual thumbnails (tiny) of pages appearing in each tab, in TBB 2.3.25-8. Not icons - actual thumbs of pages. I don't see that in regular fox, but maybe other addons block that behavior. Do you have to edit an about:config entry to stop them from showing in the

Re: [tor-talk] Thoughts on proxy setup wrt insecure connections

2011-02-28 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 02/28/2011 03:30 PM, Robert Ransom wrote: Connections to the plaintext POP3 and IMAP ports may be secured using the STARTTLS command. Where would the "STARTTLS" command be used? Would it be a permanent change to some config file (until changed back) or used manually on each start? Thank

Re: [tor-talk] Thoughts on proxy setup wrt insecure connections

2011-03-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/28/2011 6:35 PM, Lucky Green wrote: On 2011-02-28 16:05, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Where would the "STARTTLS" command be used? Would it be a permanent change to some config file (until changed back) or used manually on each start? Joe, This article is good intro to how the STARTTLS com

Re: [tor-talk] can't get tor to work :(

2011-03-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/6/2011 7:11 AM, Tolas Anon wrote: Hi, i downloaded the tor browser bundle today, and tried to get it to run. In the default mode, it will hang on "connecting to a relay directory failed (no route to host)" If i put in bridge settings, it will hang on "authenticating to the tor network". I

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/20/2011 5:08 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8388484/Iran-cracks-down-on-web-dissident-technology.html Iran cracks down on web dissident technology... ... The value of “internet freedom” technologies to US foreign policy has not gone unnoti

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
ojects (or govt funded ones), often don't know the *full* extent of what's being done w/ the research, technology, info, etc. If you want to ignore history, go ahead. On 3/20/2011 11:46 PM, Paul Syverson wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:04:45PM -0500, Edward Langenbac

Re: [tor-talk] Thoughts on proxy setup wrt insecure connections

2011-03-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 2/28/2011 6:35 PM, Lucky Green wrote: Joe, This article is good intro to how the STARTTLS command would be used: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STARTTLS In short, the client sends the STARTTLS command to the server to indicate a desire to use TLS encryption for the connection. STARTTLS is most

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/21/2011 10:07 AM, Paul Syverson wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 02:43:22PM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote: In a scenario where the military actually would hide something in the source, all programmers working on the project would of course be in on it together. There are only a handful of the

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/21/2011 2:39 PM, Paul Syverson wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 02:06:04PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Last comments for a while. (All I have time for, sorry.) I'm just going to respond to specific issues about system threats and the like. I appreciate your comments & the work of all

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/22/2011 12:09 AM, Mike Perry wrote: To distill your argument down, you've said so far: 1. Tor was/is funded by a government. 2. Governments only act out of self-interest. 3. Governments often have ulterior movies. 4. Governments have inconceivable power. Please, please - everyone (probabl

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/21/2011 6:38 PM, Al MailingList wrote: That's a very good point klaus. Joe - if you think the US Government is one big cohesive entity that funds projects consistently from a single pool of resources and money then I would politely suggest you may not have had much to do with them :P

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/22/2011 11:38 AM, Kasimir Gabert wrote: Of course, if Tor was only funded from one subtree, say the imaginary "US Monitoring Internet Communications Agency" then you might have some reason to be concerned. Take care, Kasimir No idea why funding from one source is an issue. Not a requir

Re: [tor-talk] Iran cracks down on web dissident technology

2011-03-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 3/22/2011 3:57 PM, Michael Reed wrote: BINGO, we have a winner! The original *QUESTION* posed that led to the invention of Onion Routing was, "Can we build a system that allows for bi-directional communications over the Internet where the source and destination cannot be determined by a m

Re: [tor-talk] Why the US Government funds circumvention projects (Like Tor)

2011-03-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
wrote: Hi, I light of the recent discussions regarding governments funding projects like Tor, I thought this article might be of interest. U.S. develops "panic button" for democracy activists Full article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/25/us-rights-usa-technology-idUSTRE7206DH20110

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/2/2011 8:04 AM, James Brown wrote: I run Icedove 3.5.16 on Debian Squeeze (under a transparently-torified linux user), Tor v0.2.1.30, TB 1.2.5. When I try to log into my gmail accounts I have the next message: We've detected a problem with your cookie settings. Enable cookies Make sure

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/2/2011 12:16 PM, Matthew wrote: This problem has been discussed before, but I don't know the real solution, if there is one. Because the Tor exit node (in my case) appears to be in a diff country than one given to Gmail when opened the acct (or the assumed country from my orig IP a

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/2/2011 2:33 PM, katmagic wrote: Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to use a GMail account over Tor. This is unrelated to Torbutton's cookie handling (which was broken but has since been fixed). Personally, I got a friend on IRC to let me use his phone for

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/3/2011 1:06 AM, Mike Perry wrote: Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com): On 4/2/2011 2:33 PM, katmagic wrote: Google requires you to be able to receive a text message or phone call to use a GMail account over Tor. This is unrelated to Torbutton's cookie handling (which was b

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 12:52 AM, grarpamp wrote: First I've heard that they require SMS to *USE* gmail. However, SMS has been required for quite some time now to *CREATE* a new gmail account. There was a thread a few months back regarding creation. And to date, I've not been able to create a new gmail accou

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 4:54 PM, Praedor Tempus wrote: The problem with gmail appears to be tied to certain countries. I created a completely anonymous gmail account late last year (no SMS crap) via tor. I have found that most of the time I am able to connect to my account but there are times ("wrong" ex

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-05 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 3:53 PM, Matthew wrote: >>>Yes, & thus my question about where the "StrictExitNodes" commands would be input / stored (maybe for specific country) ? Not sure if this was answered but you just put the entries in your torrc file. No, it wasn't answered - that I saw. Thanks. I kno

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/5/2011 11:10 PM, grarpamp wrote: What if you don't have a phone # to give them (or don't want to) - they just don't let you create an acct? In my tests to date (limited by free time), yes, that's what I said. FYI - I tried GMX w/ Tor couple days ago - worked just fine. Yes, free alternat

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/6/2011 7:27 PM, grarpamp wrote: Don't understand clinging to Gmail for dear life. They just happen to have some really good services and tie-ins that all rely on having a gmail/google account. I may just cough up $20 for a disposable phone to get that. If someday the services really become

Re: [tor-talk] TB-1.3.2alpha don't work under FF 3.6.16

2011-04-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/7/2011 6:21 AM, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote: TB-1.3.2alpha don't work under FF 3.6.16 from Ubuntu 10.10 distribution: I cannot save changing of settings (button "OK" don't pushable). TB-1.2.5 is workable with it. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lis

Re: [tor-talk] TB-1.3.2alpha don't work under FF 3.6.16

2011-04-07 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/7/2011 11:07 AM, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote: Thanks for your advice, but I install that version of TB on new-installed systed where was no any TB earlier. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/ma

Re: [tor-talk] Google disable web-access to gmail for Tor-users?

2011-04-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/7/2011 1:54 PM, grarpamp wrote: The shortest answer is that strong pseudonyms are useful, even (or especially) in a well connected social environment. Many people want to have those links. Many want use some of the services google offers: https://www.google.com/intl/en/options/ Many want to

[tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits

2011-04-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 Loading the simplest web page (no busy sites, no d/l sites, etc.) is incredibly slow, & usually times out. Much slower than I've ever seen it unless there was something wrong w/ internet conn in general. Seems

Re: [tor-talk] TB for Win

2011-04-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/8/2011 4:50 PM, Greg Kalitnikoff wrote: Hi! When will TorBrowser with Firefox 4 for Windows be released? Tired of waiting :) ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk Try

Re: [tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits

2011-04-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
ybe this will help others. On 4/8/2011 2:46 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 Loading the simplest web page (no busy sites, no d/l sites, etc.) is incredibly slow, & usually times out. Much slower than I'v

Re: [tor-talk] endless list of scrubbed circuits

2011-04-09 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/8/2011 5:35 PM, Mike Perry wrote: Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com): Using vidalia bundle 0.2.10 / 0.2.30 w/ Torbutton 1.3.2a in Vista x64, Firefox 4.0 There's an endless, constantly increasing list of scrubbed circuits - like below. It just keeps going thru them like a t

Re: [tor-talk] To Toggle, or not to Toggle: The End of Torbutton

2011-04-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/11/2011 11:11 PM, Jim wrote: Mike Perry wrote: I think we should completely do away with the toggle model, as well as the entire idea of Torbutton as a separate piece of user-facing software, and rely solely on the Tor Browser Bundles, except perhaps with the addition of standalone Tor+Vida

[tor-talk] tor-talk messages suddenly filtered by provider

2011-04-17 Thread Joe Btfsplk
In the last week, * SOME * of the tor-talk msgs started getting filtered as spam. I changed nothing, so GMX must've changed their filters / software. Never happened before now & never when list was at seul.org. I can't see any diff in msgs that get filtered & ones it still lets through. One

Re: [tor-talk] Torbutton problem

2011-04-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/21/2011 5:10 AM, Zaher F. wrote: but i have one question : how can u get to firefox on ur system???unless if the second one is portable??? thx Not sure I understand your question. Do you mean how can you have installed / run 2 instances of Firefox on same machine? That, as well as

Re: [tor-talk] To Toggle, or not to Toggle: The End of Torbutton

2011-04-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/21/2011 1:22 PM, Kraktus wrote: Well, if I had an 8-core machine with 4+GB RAM, or even a single-core machine with over 1 GHz and at least 1GB RAM, I'd probably have four browser profiles for Firefox alone: ... However, seeing has how my computer is single core, less than 1 GHz, and has les

Re: [tor-talk] Torbutton problem

2011-04-21 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/21/2011 3:05 PM, Zaher F. wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:58:57 -0500 > From: joebtfs...@gmx.com > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Torbutton problem > > On 4/21/2011 5:10 AM, Zaher F. wrote: > > > > but i have one question : how can u get to firefox on ur > >

Re: [tor-talk] To Toggle, or not to Toggle: The End of Torbutton

2011-04-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/22/2011 6:32 AM, Kraktus wrote: If I had a nice high CPU high RAM machine, you mean? ...I'm actually using a similar browser that's close enough that it can still use Firefox 4 add-ons. Also, JonDoFox makes running multiple instances of my non-Firefox quite easy: there's a menu option for

Re: [tor-talk] To Toggle, or not to Toggle: The End of Torbutton

2011-04-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/22/2011 9:53 AM, The Doctor wrote: Why would you want to run several instances of Firefox - SIMULTANEOUSLY? When I said it was easy to install multiple versions, So the user could have a 'mundane' browser for day to day stuff and a Torified browser so that they could browse parts of the we

Re: [tor-talk] To Toggle, or not to Toggle: The End of Torbutton

2011-04-22 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/22/2011 10:27 AM, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:53:19 -0400 The Doctor wrote: Perhaps I'm confused over the details, but I do this daily. I use TBB for my anonymous/private browsing and the system firefox for non-anonymous/private browsing. The two never mix profiles, memory

[tor-talk] no country flags in Vidalia 2.10

2011-04-27 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Never really payed much attention to country flags in Tor Network map - in Vidalia 2.10 or earlier versions. But, they don't show up when running Tor under my limited (Vista) acct. I figured out by looking at the error / message log, that Tor / Vidalia * "couldn't find the "geoip" file" * in

Re: [tor-talk] no country flags in Vidalia 2.10

2011-04-27 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/27/2011 1:41 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: Is this a bug in Tor installer? If I copy the geoip file from admin acct to user acct path, the country flags show just fine, running Tor in a user acct. But, it shouldn't have to be done manually. I'm using bundle 2.1.29 / 2.10 - ** don

Re: [tor-talk] no country flags in Vidalia 2.10

2011-04-28 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 4/27/2011 1:41 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: ... Tor couldn't find a geoip file ... because it didn't CREATE the geoip file in the limited user's ...\roaming\tor folder. It DID create the geoip file in the admin acct... I'm using bundle 2.1.29 / 2.10 [and now 2.1.30 / 2.12] i

[tor-talk] accessing Gmail via Tor revisited

2011-05-02 Thread Joe Btfsplk
A week or 2 ago, several had quite a discussion on accessing gmail accts (I could not - at the time), creating new accts, verification requests, etc. I believe Erin said (she ?) could login successfully by limiting exit nodes to same country as used when acct was created. I can confirm that wor

Re: [tor-talk] TB for Win

2011-05-03 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/3/2011 1:20 AM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: this i agree. what about a default tor skin like chrome 'incognito' has ?? -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Erinn Clark wrote: I'm more worried that users will have two Firefoxes open, and accidentally use the wrong

Re: [tor-talk] Logging in to Yahoo e-mail accounts now failing???

2011-05-17 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/14/2011 9:03 AM, David Carlson wrote: Yahoo seems to be changing their e-mail log in security features so that I now get a message that I have an incorrect user name/ password combination on a screen that has a captcha. Trying again with the captcha also fails. Turning off Tor with Torbutt

[tor-talk] ExitNodes / ExcludeNodes syntax

2011-05-18 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Should there be spaces *ANYWHERE* between commas separating data entries for torrc file commands, ExitNodes or ExcludeNodes, etc? Or does it matter? Like: ExitNodes {cc}, {cc}, {cc} (spaces after commas & before next entry) or: ExitNodes {cc},{cc},{cc} (no spaces after commas and next entry

Re: [tor-talk] Logging in to Yahoo e-mail accounts now failing???

2011-05-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/20/2011 6:45 AM, Curious Kid wrote: From: grarpamp To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 10:17:02 AM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Logging in to Yahoo e-mail accounts now failing??? If yahoo is actually rejecting log-in attempts based on perceived geographical information, w

Re: [tor-talk] password...

2011-05-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/29/2011 12:02 PM, kamyar fils wrote: Hi all, Just downloaded and installed TOR, when visiting an URL, i get this error message : "514 Authentication required." I don't use any proxy server for connecting to Internet, your help would be greatly appreciated, Best, "A" URL, or any / many

Re: [tor-talk] problem with facebook account

2011-05-29 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/29/2011 5:38 PM, Zaher F. wrote: can somebody help me about blocking accounts on facebook when i am using tor??? i guess that should be a code country i can retrieve my account without using phone number am i right or what??? I don't have a facebook acct, so not positive. Often, page

Re: [tor-talk] problem with facebook account

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/29/2011 11:47 PM, David Carlson wrote: The manual is not really clear about what a country code is or where to find yours. I searched the internet for Country Codes and found a list somewhere, but I do not recall right now where that list was. In any case, the strict exit nodes solution s

Re: [tor-talk] password...

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/30/2011 10:21 AM, kamyar fils wrote: So i can't choose which country? On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 4:57 PM, kuhkatz > wrote: click "new identity" in vidalia. or wait 10 minutes and tor will automagically create a new circuit. both will not kill exis

Re: [tor-talk] Police was here - whats next?

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/30/2011 2:46 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hi, Today police was here and took all my cohabitant's computer hardware& software with them, while I was alone at home. Until a few minutes ago I didn't even know what happend, now he told me he is accused of loggin into a<> porn site. I ran a

[tor-talk] Vidalia GUI locks up repeatedly

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Tor Vidalia bundle 0.2.1.30 - 0.2.12, Torbutton 1.33a in Vista x64 - GUI keeps locking up after Tor is active for a while (maybe 30 min - 1hr). Happening several weeks - at least - most every time I use it longer than a few min. After 1st starting Vidalia bundle, I can look at the Viadalia UI

Re: [tor-talk] Vidalia GUI locks up repeatedly

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/30/2011 9:45 PM, Tomas Touceda wrote: On 18:37 Mon 30 May , Joe Btfsplk wrote: Tor Vidalia bundle 0.2.1.30 - 0.2.12, Torbutton 1.33a in Vista x64 - GUI keeps locking up after Tor is active for a while (maybe 30 min - 1hr). Happening several weeks - at least - most every time I use it

Re: [tor-talk] Police was here - whats next?

2011-05-30 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 5/30/2011 9:15 PM, and...@torproject.org wrote: On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 09:46:29PM +0200, linuxhi...@gmail.com wrote 0.7K bytes in 19 lines about: : I ran a tor exit node at that time, and I am confident somebody : mis-used our tor exit node, : as our WLAN is WPA2 encrypted. This is likely.

Re: [tor-talk] Best way to anonymize email while still be allowing to receive it?

2011-06-06 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/4/2011 10:08 PM, 0 wrote: The goal is to hide my ip (I have dynamic) when sending and receiving email. Hide your IP address from recipients or from your ISP? Possibly if you give some info about specifically why you want to hide your IP address in email, someone could make suggestions bas

Re: [tor-talk] When to use and not to use tor.

2011-06-11 Thread Joe Btfsplk
I'm not a guru in this dept - only what I've read. Reason usually given not to use Tor for Banking is because the Tor exit node has to send unencrypted data to your target site (like bank PWs). Unless your communication w/ that site was somehow encrypted (& a login PW wouldn't be). A malicio

Re: [tor-talk] When to use and not to use tor.

2011-06-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 6/12/2011 1:22 AM, Seth David Schoen wrote: Your communication with an online banking site usually _would_ be encrypted with HTTPS, which would encrypt your login password. For instance, if you were banking with Bank of America, you would normally start your login process at https://www.ban

Re: [tor-talk] Maintaining your privacy sending e-mails

2011-07-08 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/7/2011 1:04 AM, jsz wrote: How do you manage to send e-mails? I'd like to send e-mails in an anonymous way but most of the webmails make it very difficult Try to use an anonymous e-mail account and connect to that account via TOR. E-mails shoud be encrypted locally (with GnuPG) so that

Re: [tor-talk] Accepting Java

2011-07-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/12/2011 10:13 AM, Max wrote: Is there something specific I need to do to make Thunderbirds'connections go through TOR? Same as in Firefox (or that Torbutton does, if using that). Go to Tools>Options>Advanced>Network & Disk Space>Settings. Screen looks same as Firefox's. If Manual Proxy

Re: [tor-talk] tor-0.2.2.30rc, torrc, ExitNodes, EntryNodes parameters.Not Recognized.

2011-07-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/12/2011 1:24 PM, Luis Maceira wrote: I define some entry nodes or exit nodes in torrc and tor-0.2.2.30rc ignores them completely.Is this a new feature of 0.2.2.x series of releases? ___ Are you using Vidalia bundle or browser bundle? Did you edit

Re: [tor-talk] tor-0.2.2.30rc, torrc, ExitNodes, EntryNodes parameters.Not Recognized.

2011-07-12 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/12/2011 6:53 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 06:37:36PM -0500, Joe Btfsplk wrote: On 7/12/2011 1:24 PM, Luis Maceira wrote: I define some entry nodes or exit nodes in torrc and tor-0.2.2.30rc ignores them completely.Is this a new feature of 0.2.2.x series of releases

Re: [tor-talk] spam??/socks4a for mac

2011-07-25 Thread Joe Btfsplk
On 7/19/2011 12:00 AM, M wrote: Hey guys.. i have sent several messages to the list. but i hardly receive any response! I was wondering maybe it was landing in people's spambox. If you receive this message, can you just add a note so i know that my messages are going through? Also a questio

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