Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-05 Thread stop-spinning
Mnyb wrote: Try a blind test seriously ? And re volume 100% disable replay gain/smart gain it lowers the volume in comparison !! I think this is a common cause for miss understanding this is obvious with modern loudness war pop the volume gets -10dB lower . But with a good quality

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-05 Thread garym
Perhaps there is something in your setup causing this difference (hardware interference?). Don't know. Could be and at least this is a scientifically possible explanation. But I can assure you that if the CDs are ripped to WAV (or FLAC) with DbPA and the rip returned a Secure indication (or

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-05 Thread Rangdo
What's a high end transport anyway? The Plinius CD101 costs ~#163;4k but uses the same transport as an ASUS 52x cdr costing maybe #163;20. Same laser getting the bits off the CD which is really all that counts ;) Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-04 Thread Julf
Mnyb wrote: Yes we are discussion digital,input to the same DAC . Well, that hasn't actually been stated by the OP, so I wanted to make sure... Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-04 Thread aubuti
congole wrote: One could argue that the copies cannot be guranteed to be bit-perfect accurate (after all, EAC does state some level of 'confidence'), The number that AccurateRip gives for confidence is the number of entries in the database that have _exactly_ the same CRC as the rip you got.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-04 Thread garym
And the OP is also possibly misinterpreting the percentage confidence provided by EAC. It doesn't mean what he thinks. And it is easy to determine bit perfect rips. This is not likely his issue. And again, is he using flac or other lossless, volume at 100% and replay gain use by touch turned

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-04 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: And the OP is also possibly misinterpreting the percentage confidence provided by EAC. It doesn't mean what he thinks. And it is easy to determine bit perfect rips. This is not likely his issue. And again, is he using flac or other lossless, volume at 100% and replay gain

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-03 Thread stop-spinning
I have a friend I am trying to convince that his hi-end CD player should not be better than a good computer based music source - and so far - the CD player wins bringing more dimensionality to the sound, whereas so far, the ripped equivalent sound flat in comparison. Perhaps I am ripping them

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-03 Thread garym
stop-spinning wrote: I have a friend I am trying to convince that his hi-end CD player should not be better than a good computer based music source - and so far - the CD player wins bringing more dimensionality to the sound, whereas so far, the ripped equivalent sound flat in comparison.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-03 Thread Mnyb
Try a blind test seriously ? And re volume 100% disable replay gain/smart gain it lowers the volume in comparison !! I think this is a common cause for miss understanding this is obvious with modern loudness war pop the volume gets -10dB lower . But with a good quality recording replay gain

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-03 Thread JohnB
stop-spinning wrote: I have a friend I am trying to convince that his hi-end CD player should not be better than a good computer based music source - and so far - the CD player wins bringing more dimensionality to the sound, whereas so far, the ripped equivalent sound flat in comparison.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-03 Thread Mnyb
JohnB wrote: My understanding is that if you are using the digital output from Windows PC with the default soundcard then the sound is probably compromised by the messing about that Windows kernel does. This is certainly the case with Windows XP, though with Windows 7 you can set the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-03 Thread congole
stop-spinning wrote: ...and getting good if not better results? I personally always wondered why a CD player should sound better than an SBT, because an SBT does not have any moving parts or spinning disks to worry about. But if you don't take the greatest of care when it comes to ripping

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-03 Thread Julf
congole wrote: same amp speakers, same cables, even same input on my amp)... But was it an analog input to the amp? So different DACs with possibly different signal levels? Julf's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-03 Thread Mnyb
Julf wrote: But was it an analog input to the amp? So different DACs with possibly different signal levels? Yes we are discussion digital,input to the same DAC . Mnyb's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-02 Thread stop-spinning
...and getting good if not better results? I ask this after reading an interesting article about the importance of ripping your music from CDs (if you take that approach). Picking out this particular sentence from the article: There's a huge difference between a CD ripped by a home computer and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-02 Thread Jeff52
There is no substantiation or any data used in the article to support the statement that There’s a huge difference between a CD ripped by a home computer and one ripped through a professional system. If you: 1. Rip to a lossless format, FLAC, ALAC, APE, WMA-Lossless, etc.; and 2. Use a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-02 Thread toby10
The trick to getting professional CD rips is to use the appropriate pen prior to ripping. Every audiophile knows that! :) http://www.elusivedisc.com/AUDIOPRISM-CD-STOPLIGHT-PEN/productinfo/AP-CDSL/ toby10's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-02 Thread Mnyb
Yes an EAC or dBp rip with accurate rip is as good as it gets . But even if don't do that most CD's rip problem free in a more humble ripper unless you used your CD's as drink coasters, in my case I'd say that most of my disc are scratch free. Rip to lossles flac and use a Touch as player you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-02 Thread jt25741
I feel even the worst RIP quality could at most produce a few milliseconds of distortions, and rarely at that. If you use the tools and CD ripping discussed above, you will be more than fine. The reduced jitter of the SBT compared to many CD players, coupled with common jitter reduction

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any 'Audiophile' using an SBT instead of their hi-end CD Player or Transport?

2012-11-02 Thread Mnyb
Many old high end transports is also operating in real time they read continiusly at 1x and only once so read errors will appear more often that on a computer any old pc can beat that with the proper ripping . Good ripping software re reads iffy parts and try several times to get the data .