Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1?

2010-05-27 Thread pippin
miab;550841 Wrote: I thought I remembered John Swenson mentioning that at 16/44.1 digital output you could decrease the volume and still have bit-perfect output up to a point. Something to do with the extra bits and the 24 bit capacity.? Bitperfect means the same information. Different

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1?

2010-05-27 Thread KMorgan
pippin;550852 Wrote: Bitperfect means the same information. Different volume means different information, how could a different volume contain the same information, after all, ALL audio information is only volume information (at different frequencies). Well.. If the 16 bit sample is bumped

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1?

2010-05-27 Thread pippin
Not losing resolution isn't the same as bit perfect reproduction. Dts information for example will get lost -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1?

2010-05-26 Thread miab
I thought I remembered John Swenson mentioning that at 16/44.1 digital output you could decrease the volume and still have bit-perfect output up to a point. Something to do with the extra bits and the 24 bit capacity.? -- miab

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1?

2010-05-26 Thread JohnSwenson
Bit perfect is only at 100%. What you are referring to is the effective resolution. Since the DAC has 24 bits the 16 bits can be attenuated a fair amount without loosing effective resolution. But its NOT bit perfect. The bits are being changed, but you are not losing dynamic range of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1?

2010-05-26 Thread Mnyb
Yes the digital spdif is bit perfect until you are at 16 bits. And the digital volume works with 24bit resolution. So 6dB per bit gives you -48dB before the bits runs out . (of course the increments are smaller than 6dB ) I have no idea what it represents is these 100 squeezevolume units ? That

[SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1?

2010-05-25 Thread miab
Was wondering if the Touch was bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1? And if so, to what decreased volume would it be? -- miab miab's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34270 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch bitperfect at less than 100% volume on 16/44.1?

2010-05-25 Thread Grahame
The touch is bitperfect at 100% volume. Search these forums for digital attenuation as to opinions on the use of less than 100% volume, when using the analog outputs. It makes for interesting reading. If you are using the touch as a digital transport, use 100% volume, then what you get out is