Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-11-01 Thread mrfinsky327
First of all, thanks to all of you for the tips. Final thoughts based on recent experiments: 1. Turning the volume up on the Touch was incredibly important. This seemed to have a huge impact on sound quality. 2. Using dbPoweramp to rip flac files was a bit more complicated than iTunes for aiff

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-31 Thread souwalker
Soulkeeper;666413 Wrote: But seriously, the average pop production sounds like sewage to me, so I don't care whether it's in its purest form, or slightly processed. The war on sound (aka loudness war) has really ruined a lot of otherwise good music. How true to the newer recordings. Rgds

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-30 Thread adamdea
If the only evidence that OPs hearing and / or equipment is knackered is that he can't hear the difference between AIFF and WMA 192kbps then it might just be that perceptual codec designers know a lot more than audiophiles. -192 is a little on the low side, but I think BBC 3 hd and spotify

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-30 Thread garym
adamdea;666379 Wrote: If the only evidence that OPs hearing and / or equipment is knackered is that he can't hear the difference between AIFF and WMA 192kbps then it might just be that perceptual codec designers know a lot more than audiophiles. -192 is a little on the low side, but I

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-30 Thread RussellMrgn
aubuti;666030 Wrote: Didn't mean to take an unfair shot about the hearing, but it happens. Especially the high frequencies. There are lots of easy tests out there to see where your hearing drops off. If you still have all your aural acuity, more power to you. I'm a few years younger than

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-30 Thread garym
Soulkeeper;666413 Wrote: I can't tell the difference between a pig with lipstick, and a regular pig, either. ;) But seriously, the average pop production sounds like sewage to me, so I don't care whether it's in its purest form, or slightly processed. The war on sound (aka loudness war)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-29 Thread garym
mrfinsky327;666028 Wrote: Again, thanks to all repliers. I am a high-end veteran but new at computer audio. I enjoy the wide access but am frustrated by the complications. I am curious why the replies recommend flac as a file format. My understanding was that aiff was totally uncompressed

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-29 Thread jcowling
I second the recommendation for ripping with dbpoweramp. I have used EAC and dbpoweramp. If you have a PC with a multicore processor, dbpoweramp will be much faster than EAC. dbpoweramp also uses multiple sources for metadata and will transcode your flac (or apple lossless) rips to mp3 for

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-29 Thread SuperQ
+1 to the other comments about iTunes for ripping. - ALAC is a good choice if you're set on using iTunes. - Make sure to enable sound check to add gain tags. Not needed for single album listening, but essential for random playback. - Make sure to enable secure ripping in order to avoid bad

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-29 Thread garym
SuperQ;666201 Wrote: I personally stay away from iTunes for music. I use itunes (and a mirror mp3 library) for loading up my iphones/ipods. But I don't use it for ripping, tagging, or organizing my files. Nothing I have against itunes, just not nearly as good as other tools that are easily

[SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread mrfinsky327
I recently installed a brand new Touch with SB Server 7.6.1. I have Kind of Blue in both .wma (192kps) and .aiff formats. I did a listening test and found it difficult to discern a significant difference in sound quality. My sound system is fairly old (most components are about 20-25 years

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread bitstopjoe
You may want to read this link http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83412 It made a difference for me BUT if you are not comfortable opening up your Touch and doing some solder you may want to pass. There also are other posts in this forum talking about using a better power supply (

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread guidof
mrfinsky327;665916 Wrote: I am using only the analog outputs of the Touch (the only digital component). Although the Touch internal DAC is good, it's not as good as a well designed external DAC. That, plus Soundcheck's software mods (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread SuperQ
Most likely you are having issues with volume level calibration. Many devices like the Denon CD player have very loud op-amps. They will sound better because they are louder. The Touch is a well designed neutral DAC without the usual over driving. It's almost impossible to calibrate this with

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread mrfinsky327
Thank you for the replies and suggestions. I will definitely turn the volume on the Touch up to 100% and use the preamp for management of the overall level. I speculate that this will allow the Touch to fully blossom as a source. My Denon CD player is 15-20 years old. I am certain that the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread jmschnur
Think lossless flac for your digitized music . -- jmschnur Joel jmschnur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread guidof
I second the suggestion about ripping your CDs to lossless flac. If, as it appears, you have a main system in which you have an external DAC, why not temporarily connect your Touch to that DAC via the Touch digital output and play a few good rips through your main system, as a test? Guido F.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread aubuti
mrfinsky327;665990 Wrote: I hesitate to open up the Touch to touch the caps. The sound is as good as my expectations, but I am surprised at the minor difference between .wma and .aiff. I am confident that the old system, plus the small room size and non-optimal speaker placement, is limiting

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread Phil Leigh
25 year old amps need their electrolytic caps replacing. Also the drive units in your speakers may be getting rather tired and their crossovers probably need rebuilding by now. None of these things last forever unfortunately. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread mrfinsky327
Again, thanks to all repliers. I am a high-end veteran but new at computer audio. I enjoy the wide access but am frustrated by the complications. I am curious why the replies recommend flac as a file format. My understanding was that aiff was totally uncompressed and allowed access to the iTunes

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?

2011-10-28 Thread aubuti
Didn't mean to take an unfair shot about the hearing, but it happens. Especially the high frequencies. There are lots of easy tests out there to see where your hearing drops off. If you still have all your aural acuity, more power to you. I'm a few years younger than you, and know that I've lost