Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-12 Thread Dave1972
aubuti;689995 Wrote: > Have you been drinking the Kool Aid in some of those tweakers' threads? > TCP/IP is an asynchronous error-checking protocol. The internet > wouldn't work if it wasn't. Ethernet cable is fine as long as you keep > it shorter than 100 meters. Fair enough! That does make sens

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-12 Thread Stratmangler
Dave1972;689978 Wrote: > sending digital streams over long wires does introduce errors and > diminish sound quality Where did you learn this audiophool nonsense? We're talking TCP/IP packet data (that's right - network data transmission), and as long as the cable installation is within specific

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
And as I have a switch in my hifi system the Ethernet cable length as seen by my Touch is 1meter even if the server is across the apartment . So even if this where a problem ( which it is not ) you could just add a switch and it would be fixed. -- Mnyb

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-11 Thread Mnyb
aubuti;689995 Wrote: > Have you been drinking the Kool Aid in some of those tweakers' threads? > TCP/IP is an asynchronous error-checking protocol. The internet > wouldn't work if it wasn't. Ethernet cable is fine as long as you keep > it shorter than 100 meters. +++1 Yep ethernet works an

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-10 Thread aubuti
Dave1972;689978 Wrote: > I would rather not have a long ethernet cable trailing across the room > from my router (sure, it would work, but sending digital streams over > long wires does introduce errors and diminish sound quality) Have you been drinking the Kool Aid in some of those tweakers' thr

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-10 Thread Dave1972
Can I connect a server directly to the Touch without a router? Mnyb;689669 Wrote: > yes but why ? Well, I was considering getting one of those really tiny eco server things (they're silent too) to just sit on the shelf next to my Touch, with a couple of hard drives plugged into it. I would ra

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-09 Thread JohnSwenson
JJZolx;689680 Wrote: > The last part is incorrect. If you don't assign static IP addresses and > have no DHCP server available, the server and Squeezebox will assign > themselves addresses, but they _will_ be on the same subnet of > 169.254.0.0/16. It's designed to work like this and is called >

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-09 Thread JJZolx
JohnSwenson;689673 Wrote: > On the stand alone network. You CAN connect a computer running an > external server direct to the Touch, BUT then you have to come up with > some way to assign network addresses. This is usually handled by the > DHCP server in your router. You can either assign static

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-09 Thread Mnyb
JohnSwenson;689673 Wrote: > I just tried my Touch with a USB stick with no ethernet cable or wifi, > it works fine, I'm listening to it right now. Since I had been > connected to an external server I had to go through several pages, it > first told me there was no network connectivity and asked i

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-09 Thread JohnSwenson
I just tried my Touch with a USB stick with no ethernet cable or wifi, it works fine, I'm listening to it right now. Since I had been connected to an external server I had to go through several pages, it first told me there was no network connectivity and asked if I wanted to continue without a ne

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-08 Thread Mnyb
Dave1972;689646 Wrote: > can I just connect the server directly to the Touch via ethernet without > a router? yes but why ? there are many ways to design a functioning network, using a router is one of them and by far the easiest, configure point to point communication is possible however the in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-08 Thread Dave1972
dasmueller;689632 Wrote: > I am trying to understand this but am not sure I am getting it. You have > a network setup that you choose to shutdown for periods of time, perhaps > to save electricity ? You have your HDD w music files attached to the > Touch itself and want to use it wo turning on y

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-08 Thread dasmueller
I am trying to understand this but am not sure I am getting it. You have a network setup that you choose to shutdown for periods of time, perhaps to save electricity ? You have your HDD w music files attached to the Touch itself and want to use it wo turning on your router/network.I am at a bit o

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-08 Thread Dave1972
Interesting - thanks for the reply. I didn't realise that was a bug that had been fixed. I'm having issues now with the local music server stopping for some unknown reason, but I guess it's just the same old crappy buggy Touch issues that everyone has from time to time, and nothing to do with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-08 Thread Mnyb
Touch is two things internally a Squeezeboxplayer and a Squeezeboxserver . When you run it standalone the two happens to be on the same box, the Tiny server can actually stream to other players on your network just as the Touch player can conect to another server. And then the whole internet rad

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-08 Thread Mnyb
how old fw are you running this should be fixed long ago if not try to reopen the bug. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16552 -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x Meridia

[SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny/Logitech server - router? Why?

2012-02-08 Thread Dave1972
Sorry for such a naive (probably very old) question, but after much Googling I cannot find the answer. Can anyone explain why, when the SB Touch is being used in *standalone mode* (using tiny server or Logitech server, or whatever it's called these days) the router needs to be switched on? Does t