your momo;593419 Wrote:
> DHCP can be as fast, as good and as easy you claim, it will not permit
> to simply operate a SB and a NAS connected through a LAN switch while
> Router and all is DHCP feature is either absent, broken or powered
> off.
> Here the only answer is fixed IP for both SB & NAS
Letten;592803 Wrote:
> And DHCP is really fast too, it doesn't take 10 seconds to get an IP
> from DHCP (as claimed). On my squeezeboxes I can see the "Obtaining IP
> adress..." text for about 1-2 seconds, and keep in mind that this is
> only needed if the squeezebox has been powered off - So thi
KMorgan;592748 Wrote:
> Well my old Belkin Router and my new Belkin router don't even need a
> single mouse click. By default the lease time is "Forever". Sounds
> like your world is more complicated than it need be.
>
> Keith
Agree, I'm on my third router, all from major brands (Zyxel, Netge
EricBergan;592718 Wrote:
>
> In my world, it's not a single mouse click in my router, it's cutting
> and pasting the MAC address, etc. and plus having to re-enter them when
> I upgrade the router firmware. Not terrible, but why should I have to do
> it for something that I can do simply on my SB
Letten;592642 Wrote:
> Because it's easier!
>
> Don't tell me assigning and maintaining true static IP adresses is
> easier than loging into the router and checkmark the devices you want
> to keep the same IP (reservation) - thats ONE click pr. device! doesn't
> get any easier if you ask me.
>
Mnyb;592690 Wrote:
>
> But there is no shortcut here even if you use DHCP and it works
> flawlessly, to operate a home network you must learn some basics about
> networking and learn something about how your router works and so on.
> I don't think networking can be a totally transparent "just w
Historically squeezeboxes DHCP implementation has been somewhat fragile
.
And many routers has bugs in this to, so DHCP -can fail- so a solution
that don't use DHCP is -less likely to fail- .
And you shave off some 10 seconds in reconnecting time as it does not
have negotiate for an ip .
That sa
toby10;592672 Wrote:
> As a non techie user myself I certainly agree. The one catch is in
> cases where the same device IP is needed but the router does not
> support reserved IP's.
> In the SB environment this then becomes a kludge to accomplish,
> apparently.
>
> I have a single device that r
Letten;592642 Wrote:
> Because it's easier!
> ...
> - DHCP is just fine for most users,
> - DHCP reservation is just fine for most advanced users,
> - True static IP's is for the IT specialist only.
> ..
As a non techie user myself I certainly agree. The one catch is in
cases where th
toby10;592670 Wrote:
> Luckily I've never had to mess with IP's for my SB players, but it sure
> sounds like a PITA for those that need to do so.
And even worse PITA for those that "think" they need to do so.
But in reality they most propably have other network problems and they
could have use
JJZolx;592593 Wrote:
> I doubt that's true if the other end of ethernet cable isn't connected
> to anything. Should be the same as having no cable at all.
>
> Same here, but it's crazy how stupid they've made the setup of
> something so simple.
LOL, sorry, I didn't word that correctly.
As Jo
EricBergan;592580 Wrote:
> As for why? My network monitoring software reports traffic associated by
> IP address, so it's nice to have them all stay the same. Yes, can do it
> in the router, but why should I have to when the product used to
> support it?
> eric
Because it's easier!
Don't tell m
If you have a wire going from the Touch to something else other than a
router (such as a laptop, desktop, another SB etc, pretty much anything
that does NOT have a DHCP server) and you use the advanced->networking
window to connect to ethernet, it will try and connect to a DHCP
server, not find on
toby10;592584 Wrote:
> I think if you connect an ethernet cable to the Touch but do not have
> the other end connected to the router it then allows you to setup the
> IP yourself.
I doubt that's true if the other end of ethernet cable isn't connected
to anything. Should be the same as having no
EricBergan;592583 Wrote:
> Pretty nasty workaround, especially for something that used to be easy.
> I'm guessing just unplugging the ethernet wire doesn't let me do it?
> I'll try when I get back home.
>
> eric
a pain yes, and not for the casual user for sure (although before
owning my first S
EricBergan;592580 Wrote:
>
> As for why? My network monitoring software reports traffic associated
> by IP address, so it's nice to have them all stay the same. Yes, can do
> it in the router, but why should I have to when the product used to
> support it?
>
If you're running network monitorin
EricBergan;592580 Wrote:
> Just replaced a failed SB3 with a Touch, and was surprised that Touch
> doesn't support assigning an IP address, when the SB3 still does.
> Independent of what is "right", why remove functionality, that some
> users do use?
>
> As for why? My network monitoring softwar
garym;592582 Wrote:
> agree. but note it is still possible. factory reset your TOUCH then
> remove power. Then plug it in to your computer with an ethernet cable.
> Then add power to touch. It will try to get IP address then fail.
> Scroll down a bit and you'll see the add IP manually option. ent
EricBergan;592580 Wrote:
> Just replaced a failed SB3 with a Touch, and was surprised that Touch
> doesn't support assigning an IP address, when the SB3 still does.
> Independent of what is "right", why remove functionality, that some
> users do use?
>
> As for why? My network monitoring softwar
Letten;591053 Wrote:
> My point exactly.
>
> Stop messing about with static IP's theres absolutely no reason for
> using this it just makes everything more complicated.
>
> Unless you're a network manager, IT-nerd, just don't.
>
> If you like having the same IP for your devices use DHCP reserv
Mnyb;591345 Wrote:
> I did see this until now, there is function in your browser called
> "bookmark" or "favorite" you only need to do this once if your server
> is on static ip (or reserved DHCP) Not all networks resolve computer
> names mine does not for example
Odd, I thought it's normal to r
Mnyb;591345 Wrote:
> I did see this until now, there is function in your browser called
> "bookmark" or "favorite" you only need to do this once if your server
> is on static ip (or reserved DHCP) Not all networks resolve computer
> names mine does not for example
This is true, but this does not
Letten;590505 Wrote:
> What's difficult about using: http:// servername :9000 ?
>
> Heck of lot easier to remember than an IP-address if you ask me.
>
> Using IP adressses just makes it more complicated, do You also call
> Your children by their social security number or do You use their name?
reniera;590516 Wrote:
> Of course I run only one server (dockstar). The fact we all have those
> discussions in the forum prooves that Squeezebox is NOT a simple /
> plug&play / out-of-the-shelf product. If Logitech was selling a server,
> we wouldn't have to care about all this crap. S%N%S may b
My point exactly.
Stop messing about with static IP's theres absolutely no reason for
using this it just makes everything more complicated.
Unless you're a network manager, IT-nerd, just don't.
If you like having the same IP for your devices use DHCP reservation!
(it's not the same as static, d
juzi;591029 Wrote:
> users are expected to know Linux and use ssh, vim, and other "hackers'
> tools" to get things working.
But they aren't. They're only expected to have a DHCP server on their
network, and not fret over IP addresses, which is a perfectly realistic
expectation. If you want your
Mnyb;590489 Wrote:
> Static ip:
>
> use SSH edit the etc/interfaces file
>
> Stable server, build a small linux box (or get a vortexbox).
The irony with Mnyb's post is that this is exactly what sendermen
complained about in the initial post, namely that users are expected to
know Linux and use
I have also looked at Sonos before choosing Slimdevices (this is several
years ago and at that time they were still called Slimdevices). Although
the Sonos system looks nice, it had a couple of disadvantages compared
to Slimdevices:
Sonos is quite expensive. Youre basically buying a stre
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