Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-11-23 Thread metalbob
When transcoding from ALAC to FLAC on any Squeezebox device (I don't have one yet, but waiting for the Touch release), is there any noticeable quality loss or any performance issues? -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-19 Thread radish
gorman;473814 Wrote: > I just wish to stress that I wasn't in any way implying malice, hence > the "unintentional" bit. > > Edit: although now ALAC native support is mentioned in the official > product page, with price, buy me now and all the regular stuff. > Has it been added? My understanding

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-18 Thread gorman
I just wish to stress that I wasn't in any way implying malice, hence the "unintentional" bit. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-15 Thread radish
gorman;472018 Wrote: > Smells like unintentional false advertising to me, otherwise. No malice, > but it's not right. IMHO it's false advertising once the product is on sale. Until then, and this feature is present or not, it's all just conjecture. It's not exactly unusual for a product's final s

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-14 Thread chitunes
funkstar;470961 Wrote: > There is also a bug listed for this: > https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12421 > > Create an account and you will be able to CC yourself to it, or vote > for it and be notified of updates. Done. Thanks for the tip. Can't believe mine was the first vote. Gu

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-14 Thread gorman
radish;470862 Wrote: > Watch this space. Come release time, I'm sure the spec page will be > updated if ALAC support isn't available.I couldn't care less, in all honesty, > but if Logitech is not sure about supporting natively ALAC at launch it should do well by stating it clearly on the product

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-12 Thread funkstar
chitunes;470858 Wrote: > When the codec is ready, I'd want to upgrade from my Duet. How can I > find out if and when? > > Thanks. There is also a bug listed for this: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12421 Create an account and you will be able to CC yourself to it, or vote for it

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread radish
Watch this space. Come release time, I'm sure the spec page will be updated if ALAC support isn't available. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread chitunes
andyg;470855 Wrote: > On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:57 PM, chitunes wrote: > > > > > andyg;470847 Wrote: > >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, chitunes wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> sebp;470777 Wrote: > AFAIK, Apple Lossless, like WMA Lossless, isn't a format > supported > natively by the IP3K Squeezebo

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread Andy Grundman
On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:57 PM, chitunes wrote: > > andyg;470847 Wrote: >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, chitunes wrote: >> >>> >>> sebp;470777 Wrote: AFAIK, Apple Lossless, like WMA Lossless, isn't a format supported natively by the IP3K Squeezeboxes. It needs to be converted to somet

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread chitunes
andyg;470847 Wrote: > On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, chitunes wrote: > > > > > sebp;470777 Wrote: > >> AFAIK, Apple Lossless, like WMA Lossless, isn't a format supported > >> natively by the IP3K Squeezeboxes. > >> It needs to be converted to something else the SB can play. > > > > > > OK - that b

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread Andy Grundman
On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, chitunes wrote: > > sebp;470777 Wrote: >> AFAIK, Apple Lossless, like WMA Lossless, isn't a format supported >> natively by the IP3K Squeezeboxes. >> It needs to be converted to something else the SB can play. > > > OK - that brings me back to my original question. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread chitunes
sebp;470777 Wrote: > AFAIK, Apple Lossless, like WMA Lossless, isn't a format supported > natively by the IP3K Squeezeboxes. > It needs to be converted to something else the SB can play. OK - that brings me back to my original question. It appears from the specifications for the Touch that it

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread funkstar
JJZolx;470773 Wrote: > What are you calling 'actual' bitrate? The bitrates shown by SbS aren't > estimates, they're merely the rate at which the data needs to stream > based on file size and track time. By 'actual' bitrate, I mean the real rate of bits being sent to the player for tht track, eit

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread sebp
JJZolx;469971 Wrote: > I don't know a great deal about Apple lossless, but that can't be true > of all Apple lossless files, can it? AFAIK, Apple Lossless, like WMA Lossless, isn't a format supported natively by the IP3K Squeezeboxes. It needs to be converted to something else the SB can play.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread JJZolx
funkstar;470544 Wrote: > iPhone is right, currently there is no way to get the -actual- bitrate > from the transcoding process, so they just show a rough estimated > average for a Flac file (roughly half the bitrate of a CD). What are you calling 'actual' bitrate? The bitrates shown by SbS aren

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread chitunes
funkstar;470544 Wrote: > iPhone is right, currently there is no way to get the -actual- bitrate > from the transcoding process, so they just show a rough estimated > average for a Flac file (roughly half the bitrate of a CD). > > that is a lossless bitrate, so don't worry about it. I would only

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-11 Thread funkstar
chitunes;470297 Wrote: > That's what I thought. But here's the readout from the controller under > More Info for the Apple Lossless file of the Beatles' "Something" RM: > > "File Format: QuickTime Movie" (don't get this either, but that's how > the AL files are always listed) > "Bitrate: 827

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-10 Thread Mnyb
It's behaves in a similar way when SOX is used to transcode between 24/96 to 24/48 displaying bogus bitrates ? if it is what your are searching for. IMHO remove that info don't display anything if its incorrect, just show "transcoded" flac>flac, alc>flac mp4>mp3 , WMA>flac or whatever is going on

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-10 Thread iPhone
chitunes;470297 Wrote: > That's what I thought. But here's the readout from the controller under > More Info for the Apple Lossless file of the Beatles' "Something" RM: > > "File Format: QuickTime Movie" (don't get this either, but that's how > the AL files are always listed) > "Bitrate: 827

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-10 Thread atrocity
chitunes;470297 Wrote: > That's what I thought. But here's the readout from the controller under > More Info for the Apple Lossless file of the Beatles' "Something" RM: > > "File Format: QuickTime Movie" (don't get this either, but that's how > the AL files are always listed) > "Bitrate: 827

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-10 Thread chitunes
JJZolx;469971 Wrote: > I don't know a great deal about Apple lossless, but that can't be true > of all Apple lossless files, can it? It must depend on the sampling > rate of the file. Since the Duet and SB3 are only capable of 48 kHz > decoding, higher rates must be downsampled. I wouldn't thi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-09 Thread JJZolx
chitunes;469967 Wrote: > If I understand the specifications on the Touch web page, Apple Lossless > will no longer be transcoded to a lower bitrate, as is now the case > using the Duet. > > Can anyone confirm that? This would be a good reason to change. I don't know a great deal about Apple lo

[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding

2009-10-09 Thread chitunes
If I understand the specifications on the Touch web page, Apple Lossless will no longer be transcoded to a lower bitrate, as is now the case using the Duet. Can anyone confirm that? This would be a good reason to change. Thanks. -- chitunes ---