Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread swrnjtbs
Being extremist particulary in the case of Free Software ain't such a bad thing! Yes, the word extremist might sound intriguing to some people but that might be a good thing. You see, people might be interested to know more about the movement if we continuously strive to make our views heard

Re: [Trisquel-users] Graphics driver problem in Trisquel mini

2013-06-18 Thread swrnjtbs
lspci -nn|grep VGA outputs: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] [10de:0640] (rev a1) I know it's not a GPU problem cause I have another machine that is running Trisquel 32-bit Gnome which has the same GPU. I can't figure out what seems to be t

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread tegskywalker
I found this link interesting too: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/06/fanboys-in-free-software/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre laptop in Europe

2013-06-18 Thread chris
Yea- I wasn't even thinking about the ATOM CPU being a bottleneck although that is probably going to be an issue here too. So we discontinued the original Penguin Wee because it had an ATOM that wasn't adequate for the job. It would run Trisquel 6 mind you- but slowly.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre laptop in Europe

2013-06-18 Thread chris
The full thing or a lighter version? Trisquel 6 does probably use a bit less ram so it might work a bit longer/better than some other distributions although I'd still be hesitant to state 1GB is adequate. I believe 1GB is still adequate if your running a modern distribution with a GNOME 2

Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre laptop in Europe

2013-06-18 Thread alonivtsan
I run Trisquel with 1 GB of RAM in the desktop from 2005 using E17 and it's quite snappy. On the netbook I also have 1 GB with Parabola and loading software takes a few seconds (e.g. 10 seconds to load Evolution or Iceape and longer to load bitcoin-qt), but the bottleneck is the Atom processo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre laptop in Europe

2013-06-18 Thread gameboyab
I've been able to run Trisquel 6 on a Celeron M with 768 MB of RAM. It's not particularly speedy, but it's not too slow, either.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre laptop in Europe

2013-06-18 Thread chris
I think you've come across the big issue here with buying random hardware I'm always speaking about and why it's not really a great solution. Understandably everybody's situation is different and I have no good solution to offer other than pointers. The problem is that model numbers don't e

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread onpon4
"Extremism" describes the position of holding radical views that you push very hard in ways that would be considered immoral. For example, detonating bombs could perhaps be considered "extremist", and protesting funerals of people who are gay can be considered "extremist". I don't think refus

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin GNU / Linux Laptop /w 1920x1080 Matte Screen Now Shipping

2013-06-18 Thread chris
The price is what it is. An ultra slim notebook is always going to be significantly more and than a typical fat one. That's just how it is. We certainly don't have control over those costs. The prices for ultra slim screens, hard drives, and other parts, etc is higher across the board. When

Re: [Trisquel-users] Adskipping

2013-06-18 Thread chris
Wouldn't there be an increase in the volume for radio as well?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 18/06/13 15:53, christ...@priest.com escribió: > > Also, I've read RMS's article and still don't feel it's a big deal if > the GNU/Linux system is referred to as "Linux". In fact, I think > quibbling over this point actually hurts the movement. GNU does > deserve credit, but I don't think acce

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 18/06/13 15:28, gamebo...@lavabit.com escribió: > The way the writer on that blog, as well as many other 'Linux' users > talk about Linus Torvalds being the project leader of 'Linux', It > makes me wonder how they can do so much running only a kernel. :-) > Yes, they go to the extreme of saying

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
I would say that an extremist goes to the extreme or promoting open source saying that it does not apply in certain cases. They go from one extreme to the other. They do no not have a stable position. Hence they are extremists. -- Saludos libres, Quiliro Ordóñez http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blog

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting Things Done (GTD) task manager in Trisquel?

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Mehrazar
Thanks for the input. I've heard of org-mode, but haven't really tried it out too extensively. I'm not too familiar with Emacs, being primarily a GUI user.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Non-free firmware in atheros-firmware?

2013-06-18 Thread chris
The ar9170 has always been under a free software license and the source code is available. There may be a license violation if it is being distributed without the source code or at least an offer of it to those its distributed to. The ar9271 firmware does have a non-free version. The code w

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread onpon4
I'm not sure what you mean by "esoteric", because any of its meanings could work here. I'm assuming you mean that it's confidential; please correct me if this assumption is wrong. I don't agree that this issue is "esoteric". You made a vague claim that, because you can sort of make a few ch

[Trisquel-users] I cant mont /home partition

2013-06-18 Thread libre
Greetings forum friends, a few days ago I have trouble accessing my user session. After turning the machine leaves a message on the top left: "Press S to ... or M to manually mount" If I give "S" out the window to login. After I get this message: "could not update Iceauthority file / home / l

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-18 18:29, ejectm...@me.com wrote: > I agree with icarolongo in comment number 1, with one exception. Almost every > day, I have to use Windows when I work. I can't exactly install Trisquel on a computer that's not my own. I bet you could.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread fernando . negro
I already know everything that you're talking about... So, that's why I didn't bother to check the links you posted. I read that such symbol was "just part of the U.S. seal", which I understood as: that was all that it was. But, checking your links, now, I see that you read the explanation

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-18 15:07, tegskywal...@hotmail.com wrote: > The recent post by Magic Banana post about him complaining about the term > "open source" over "free software" for software licensed under the same freedom sharing license like the GPL really mad

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread onpon4
Are you selectively reading? I already said that I know what that symbol is: it's Eye of Providence, which represents the watchful eye of God (which is kind of a creepy concept, but that's religion for you). In the seal, it represents God's approval of the American revolution. If you actually

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread ricsan89
I do really care about freedom in my computing, and I wish I could use free software all the time and help others to do so because the principles, values, privacy and freedom it provides, but sadly "the reality" is other. While I want to try living the "most" free possible by using free os

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread fernando . negro
I have answers (and a lot of them) to everything you just said (and even what you might think of saying, about this)... But, because this is not the place to discuss such issues, I will only talk about what relates to Ubuntu. The symbol you talk about (and which I suspect might have been an

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread icarolongo
I read this years ago and I agree. Free software is about pragmatism. http://mether.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/the-pragmatic-extremists/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread onpon4
Triangles and circles (or "eyes") existing doesn't mean it's tied to a "new world order" or "illuminati". By the way, that symbol you think is some conspiracy symbol is the Eye of Providence,[1] or the eye of God. I don't get why you think it's such a big deal; nobody cares about it. It's j

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread gameboyab
I still actively use my (Intel) Mac... running Trisquel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread trisqit
If Mark actually were an evil occultist with a hidden agenda ... I'd probably like him better than I do. : )

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread trisqit
I'm an extremist because: --I usually agree with RMS, and I'll spend plenty of time and money and effort into protecting and preserving my freedoms, and deny myself many popular functionalities (Facebook for example) in that effort. I'm a moderate because: --I didn't throw away my Mac when

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread icarolongo
In my case the software is secondary. The client didn't see difference between the free software, free typographic, etc. But I always try to explain for them and all I do is available in free standards (SVG, PNG, ODF - and not standard but free GIMP XCF) with free license.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread ejectmail
You were stretching it with Ubuntu. It's not worthy of this forum. I'm a little worried of being in a forum of too many conspiracy theorists as it is.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread ejectmail
I agree with icarolongo in comment number 1, with one exception. Almost every day, I have to use Windows when I work. I can't exactly install Trisquel on a computer that's not my own. Although the correct answer is: it depends on how you define "extremist". Do I care about my and others' fr

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread shiretoko
There was this discussion some time ago. I think the majority of the people here are not extremists (me included). Extremism begins when people switch of their head and repeat one "holy" idea all the time. I think there are some people here who are in danger of this. Repeating all the time "pr

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting Things Done (GTD) task manager in Trisquel?

2013-06-18 Thread Michał Masłowski
If you use Emacs, org-mode might do most of these. I use Mercurial for syncing with other computers: there are only text files that can be easily diffed. pgplJqxjIL_MT.pgp Description: PGP signature

[Trisquel-users] Getting Things Done (GTD) task manager in Trisquel?

2013-06-18 Thread Michael Mehrazar
Hello all, I was wondering if there were any good task manager/to do list programs in Trisquel. I've tried both Getting Things Gnome (GTG) and Tasque, but neither one was quite what I wanted. (GTG doesn't have priorities and Tasque doesn't have subtasks) I'm particularly a big fan of the Getti

Re: [Trisquel-users] Non-free firmware in atheros-firmware?

2013-06-18 Thread Michał Masłowski
> new one), I wonder if ar9271.fw reported there to be distributed by > Trisquel (package atheros-firmware) http://packages.trisquel.info/toutatis/all/atheros-firmware/filelist suggests the package containing only ar9170.fw which has been free for a long time. The ath9k_htc firmware is not packag

[Trisquel-users] Non-free firmware in atheros-firmware?

2013-06-18 Thread tct
Reading an old thread [1] (which is now locked, that's why I start a new one), I wonder if ar9271.fw reported there to be distributed by Trisquel (package atheros-firmware) is not non-free as well as ar7010_1_1.fw, because Debian lists them both under firmware-nonfree [2]. [1] https://trisq

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread icarolongo
Unfortunately this confusion is very bad. If you try to use Debian GNU/Hurd (it has nothing of Linux) the first thing you see is "GNU Hurd is not Linux!!". All this for nobody say "Hey! I'm using this new version of "Linux" called "Hurd"". It's very crazy but not impossible :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread icarolongo
Because the system is GNU. (GNU is Not Unix) Try to use GNU + Hurd or Darwin or kFreeBSD or kNetBSD. Is the same system you use. Probably you can't see the difference.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread gameboyab
Stallman insists on calling the system GNU/Linux because many 'Linux' users have never heard of GNU or free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread christian
I'm probably less hardcore about it than most of the members here. I love the philosophy, and believe it deserves support. As such, Trisquel is a great operating system for me, as it's very polished and relatively easy for a novice to use. However, if Trisquel did not exist, I would probab

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread Stefano
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:07:22 +0200 (CEST), you wrote: >The recent post by Magic Banana post about him complaining about the term >"open source" over "free software" for software licensed under the same >freedom sharing license like the GPL really made me think about this recent >article: > >h

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread gameboyab
The way the writer on that blog, as well as many other 'Linux' users talk about Linus Torvalds being the project leader of 'Linux', It makes me wonder how they can do so much running only a kernel. :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread gameboyab
What I gathered from the 'Linux Extremism' article was: throw away your values about freedom so we can innovate; to advance 'Linux'.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread em9002
I doubt that anyone would self-identify as an "extremist." It's just that we care about software freedom and think that the term "open source" doesn't adequately convey the idea of freedom.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread Dave Hunt
I wouldn't call myself an extremist, since I make compromises like using a gmail account, facebook, twitter, and a news agrigator with restricted access to print-disabled persons. Given that source code availability is a necessary condition for some of the "four freedoms", I consider free soft

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread icarolongo
I support free software and only use it everyday. And always say about freedom e why everybody need this. Probably I am not. Like RMS and the most here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread fernando . negro
Maybe true, for some of them... The thing is that the sheer amount of "triangles" and "one eye" symbols, in many corporations' logos and publicity, seems (to me) to be too big, to be all just a coincidence. (Another "tech-related" example, from a cell phone company advertisement: http://2

[Trisquel-users] Are most of you free software extremists?

2013-06-18 Thread tegskywalker
The recent post by Magic Banana post about him complaining about the term "open source" over "free software" for software licensed under the same freedom sharing license like the GPL really made me think about this recent article: http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/06/linux-extremism-puts-h

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread onpon4
This is relevant: http://gobblin.se/u/onpon4/m/louis-giglio-sees-things-that-aren-t-there/

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Adskipping

2013-06-18 Thread holger . beetz
With all respect I think that audio tagging combined with skipping adds in the radio is pretty impossible unless you have a certain "finger print" to listen to (e.g. jingle). Most add skipping stuff for video is based on algorithms which either watch out for an increase volume during adds,

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread holger . beetz
I always thought that Ubuntu was African for "Slackware is too hard for you" ? Just kiddin :P @Fernando_Negro: I guess you can always find something symbolic / demonic in pretty much any kind of symbol / logo if you simply look hard enough :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin GNU / Linux Laptop /w 1920x1080 Matte Screen Now Shipping

2013-06-18 Thread ejectmail
Those photos actually make me even less attracted to the King Penguin. From the beginning I found the overall outer appearance of the Gazelle much nicer. The original configuration's appearance was very nice, but I'll need to see some more angles of the King Penguin before that can be a real

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin GNU / Linux Laptop /w 1920x1080 Matte Screen Now Shipping

2013-06-18 Thread chris
Aww- I see. It's fixed now. Same model different configuration (* Not a configuration that is available though). https://www.thinkpenguin.com/files/kingpenguinphotos/kingpenguin1.jpg https://www.thinkpenguin.com/files/kingpenguinphotos/kingpenguin2.jpg https://www.thinkpenguin.com/files/kingpen

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin GNU / Linux Laptop /w 1920x1080 Matte Screen Now Shipping

2013-06-18 Thread ejectmail
I'll assume you mean the two models of laptops, and not the processors that I linked. Why, then, is there no numeric keypad shown in the head-on photograph of the King Penguin on its page? Or in the photograph from the right in which the other side of the keyboard is barely visible? Do you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Graphics driver problem in Trisquel mini

2013-06-18 Thread mikko . viinamaki
What kind of a GPU is it? lspci -nn|grep VGA

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread teodorescup
Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning “can’t install Debian”. Also, in case you were wondering about the image, look here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0 review in DistroWatch Weekly

2013-06-18 Thread icarolongo
Is the same. I don't see differences. [0] http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:X11 [1] http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/License:Expat

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0 review in DistroWatch Weekly

2013-06-18 Thread tegskywalker
For shits and gigs, I was looking at the JavaScript libraries at http://www.cdnjs.com and noticed that the majority of them use the MIT License, which according to the FSF, isn't really a clearly defined license. Is it the Expat License or the X11 one? Its just "The MIT License" according t

Re: [Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread ejectmail
You could likely do the same thing with Trisquel's logo. Or any distro's logo. Unless the logo explicitly is that symbol, drawing comparisons with occultic symbols is a fantasy prone to confirmation bias. Mark Shuttleworth's Wikipedia article lists nothing about his religion, but even if he

[Trisquel-users] Occultic origin of Ubuntu?

2013-06-18 Thread fernando . negro
Here's one that is just a curiosity about this distro's parent distro... (And, perhaps, also an interesting fact, to take into consideration, when noticing how much Ubuntu is deviating people from the true principles, and ideals, of Free Software - https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-60

Re: [Trisquel-users] Antialiased Fonts

2013-06-18 Thread beanlouis14
Our web page is the databases of both professional and 100 % free website assisting developers and foundries all over the planet to offer and buy fonts.Commercial and Free fonts

Re: [Trisquel-users] Wesnoth on A13-OLinuXino

2013-06-18 Thread mampir
The company that develops OLinuXino is Olimex (https://www.olimex.com/). Unfortunately what Chris says is true for most or all OLinuXino devices. The only devices which might be an exception are the iMX233-OLinuXino models. They aren't based on Allwinner SoC and don't have any GPU or good v

Re: [Trisquel-users] Graphics driver problem in Trisquel mini

2013-06-18 Thread swrnjtbs
No! I did run the 64-bit client, and for installing 32-bit libraries it causes another problem similar to this: http://trisquel.info/en/issues/8155

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0 review in DistroWatch Weekly

2013-06-18 Thread fernando . negro
Generally speaking, one situation in which I think it might be a good idea to use to term "open source" (and talk about such a point-of-view or perspective) is when, possibly, describing a proposed piece of software to company managers, executives and yuppies - who (as convicted capitalists)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Graphics driver problem in Trisquel mini

2013-06-18 Thread Stefano
Hi, are you running 32bit games on a 64bit environment? If so, you are probably missing 32bit libraries. I think that you will need to enable multiarch support (it's disabled in Trisquel 6 Toutatis AFAIK) and then install the 32bit packages. That's all the help I can give for now, sorry. Hopeful

Re: [Trisquel-users] RMS Tells it like it is about Ubuntu

2013-06-18 Thread swrnjtbs
Yes that's probably the reason I switched to Trisquel. Another reason was the Ubuntu Software Centre which I beleive now hosts more proprietary software than Free Software!!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre laptop in Europe

2013-06-18 Thread avabitl
Thank you for the clarification. For the purpose of testing Trisquel I'd like to buy a refurbished ASUS EEE PC 1001PXD which I found yesterday (only if the Support responds to my question about the network card and changeable RAM), it's been marked as Certified by Ubuntu where they say it has

[Trisquel-users] Graphics driver problem in Trisquel mini

2013-06-18 Thread swrnjtbs
I am running Trisquel mini 64-bit. Now I have another machine which is running Trisquel Gnome 32-bit. The problem seems specific only to the mini version. When I try to run any games that uses opengl I get error messages saying opengl was not found! Nouveau drivers is installed but the proble

Re: [Trisquel-users] RMS Tells it like it is about Ubuntu

2013-06-18 Thread kgnaorvs
> "Probably one of the best." I suggest to collect the best of information related to Free Software into one video, and then make a multilingual translation. https://trisquel.info/en/forum/translations-r-stallman