Re: [Trisquel-users] is Debian GNU/Hurd free?

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew Roffey
Armworm: > But Mr. Stallman thinks the user should not be told about the option > to use the system with only a few non-free components. Not only is > this censorship, he is harming his cause. Firstly, not offering proprietary software to users is not censorship. The idea that the Debian Project

Re: [Trisquel-users] is Debian GNU/Hurd free?

2014-11-23 Thread jadonplevesque
"Give proprietary software and inch, and it'll move a mile" Even a single proprietary component is a security and privacy risk- certainly, if your computer NEEDS one proprietary component (And you are unable to replace your PC with one that doesn't need any proprietary software) it's better

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librem 15: A Free/Libre and Open Source Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms

2014-11-23 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
> Purism will prioritize free/libre software for our users. Sounds like it comes with proprietary stuff then... > 4 Core (8 Threads) 2.3GHz Intel i7-4712MQ I guess that means it comes with the AMT backdoor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_AMT

Re: [Trisquel-users] is Debian GNU/Hurd free?

2014-11-23 Thread LDrumbler
Sometimes, free software is not enough. Sometimes, you need proprietary software to accompany free software and make it work. Surely a system with mostly free components and a single proprietary component is better than a fully proprietary system. But Mr. Stallman thinks the user should not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread LDrumbler
Yeah, your intentions are noble and all, but it's not going to happen. What about dynamically created web pages? Responsive design? Do those not require JavaScript? Yet they are not replaceable by installed software. The web is built on JavaScript, and it is normally used for good and not e

Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't upgrade to Trisquel 7.0 :-(

2014-11-23 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
One thing you could further try with radeon unblacklisted is adding the nomodeset grub parameter. You need to edit (as superuser) /etc/default/grub and add nomodeset to the parameters after GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT Then exit and save and run (as superuser) update-grub And reboot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 will be released next week.

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew Lindley
Sorry! Quite by accident you happened to hit on a form of words often used by a local minority to open bartering in my youth. I suggest you go here https://www.thinkpenguin.com/about And either get their GPG key or use the contact form to speak to Thinkpenguin direct. Chris has posted here si

Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't upgrade to Trisquel 7.0 :-(

2014-11-23 Thread fredb30
Ok, I installed Trisquel 7.0 and added # in front of the blacklisted drivers. Like you predicted, my computer restarted with a black screen and never started up :-(

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librem 15: A Free/Libre and Open Source Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms

2014-11-23 Thread gramex
Oops! I just read the bottom of the CrowdSupply page, and it says the project was started by a Todd Weaver, so I was mistaken when I said it's not obvious who's behind it. It looks like he is the CEO of a Seattle-based company called Ivi, Inc. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivi%2C_Inc.) @jx

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librem 15: A Free/Libre and Open Source Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms

2014-11-23 Thread gramex
I wonder if this is even legit... It isn't obvious who's behind it, and it seems too good to be true. I'd suggest being cautious. I also noticed that section on DVD decryption in their FAQ (http://puri.sm/faq/) seemed kind of familiar. It turns out that a couple of paragraphs from the Enabl

Re: [Trisquel-users] is Debian GNU/Hurd free?

2014-11-23 Thread jadonplevesque
Debian GNU/Hurd isn't a stable and usable for average users yet- it's testing, I believe. That may be why it's not on the list. I find it unlikely that there's any non-free software for Hurd, or that Debian has a non-free repository for Hurd, but it's possible. You should be able to run that H

Re: [Trisquel-users] is Debian GNU/Hurd free?

2014-11-23 Thread jason
The Debian distros can be used in freedom if you're careful. The FSF won't put their name on it though since it's conditional (if you're careful) and because they have issues with what the project behind the distro is doing (distributing proprietary software as a side activity) and they don't

[Trisquel-users] is Debian GNU/Hurd free?

2014-11-23 Thread adel . afzal
It's not on the approved distro list. Is that because it comes with proprietary software, recommends, or facilitates?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librem 15: A Free/Libre and Open Source Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms

2014-11-23 Thread jason
I'm pretty sure the graphics are non-free. And why did they fork Trisquel into Purism GNU/Linux? And why aren't they seeking FSF's RYF certification? (Because it would not qualify, which is a good indicator of how "free" it really is - It automatically fails the RYF criteria due to the propri

[Trisquel-users] Gimp 2.8 on Trisquel 6>

2014-11-23 Thread fredb30
Hi! I have Trisquel 6 and It seems that the up-to-date version of GIMP is 2.6 but their website says they have a v2.8 available ? Is it possible to have GIMP 2.8 on Trisquel 6.0 ? Thanks

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 will be released next week.

2014-11-23 Thread ashok . biollay
Yes, I understood that 50$ is the discount. I asked : if I buy two laptops, is the discount 100$ ? [If I buy n laptops, is the discount 50n$ ?]

Re: [Trisquel-users] Belenos: Accessible GUI Calendar app?

2014-11-23 Thread lev . lazinskiy
Hi Dave, Adding Lightning is very simple! 1) Open IceDove 2) Open the Menu on the top right 3) Select Add-Ons * (Alternatively you can right click on the top of the IceDove window, select "Menu Bar" and then go to Tools -> Add-Ons) 4) Search for Lightning 5) Install and Restart IceDove

[Trisquel-users] Belenos: Accessible GUI Calendar app?

2014-11-23 Thread dhunt
Hi, I found the Lightning extension from the Mozilla site, and want to add it to icedove; how can I do this? Opening the '.xpi' file with icedove starts an empty message. The xul-ext-lightning package will not install, due to Ubuntu's thunderbird being a dependency. Evolution calendar is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librem 15: A Free/Libre and Open Source Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms

2014-11-23 Thread lev . lazinskiy
Wow, this is awesome! Thanks for sharing :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Opening usb memory when plug not working on trisquel 7

2014-11-23 Thread lev . lazinskiy
Hello, Please have a look at the bug report, the issue is that the drive is not auto mounting and it can be fixed simply by installing usbmount. http://trisquel.info/en/issues/12790#comment-59696 Best, Lev

Re: [Trisquel-users] long-term sustainability of Trisquel -- what if we lose core developers?

2014-11-23 Thread dhunt
Since gedit no longer works with orca, I use mousepad. In the brief tests I've done, Sound Recorder seems to work.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Librem 15: A Free/Libre and Open Source Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms

2014-11-23 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
On 23.11.2014 22:01, st...@openmailbox.org wrote: > The Librem 15 will use a Trisquel based operating system. Thank you for posting this here, I didn't know about this project! > https://www.crowdsupply.com/pueyrism/librem-laptop > > Sounds pretty good, but I don't know... They say (in section

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread onpon4
To my mind, for the system of JavaScript to be acceptable, each script installation must be explicitly authorized by the user, unless the user has decided to place trust in someone, and permanent so that you can keep an old version; and it needs to be possible to install other scripts in plac

[Trisquel-users] Librem 15: A Free/Libre and Open Source Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms

2014-11-23 Thread stask
The Librem 15 will use a Trisquel based operating system. https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-laptop Sounds pretty good, but I don't know... Haven't seen it mentioned here so I thought I would post something. Do the sponsors of this not hang around here? Strange they mention Trisquel b

Re: [Trisquel-users] Configure guest-login in Trisquel 7

2014-11-23 Thread jaumetbb
Well, I'll do, but this if for ALL new users... anywhere just for guests? Thx

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread niknyby
From Julian's essay: "Let's suppose even further that LibreJS succeeds so much that it causes a large portion of the Web to release scripts under libre licenses and document the licenses in a format LibreJS can understand. It seems great on the surface, but what follows from this is that so

Re: [Trisquel-users] Start up directory for Trisquel Mini?

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew Lindley
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart ISTR the system and user based LXSession autostart:s have Trisquel-mini instead of the Lubuntu in the example path there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread niknyby
"If i understood correctly, one of his main problems with javascript is that those 'programs' get silently 'installed and executed' from various untrusted sources." You're right, that does seem to be his main concern. In that case, I'd suggest NoScript, or not running JavaScript at all.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread niknyby
Well, that is a different issue then. And that's being addressed by the Mozilla team.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread niknyby
What I should have said is: his essay talks about the differences of nonfree and free JavaScript, not malicious and non-malicious JavaScript.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!

2014-11-23 Thread andrew
OK, because your stuff doesn't come with the end user paperwork for WEEE I hadn't realised we were still paying the taxes for it and the other EU / member state levies and regulations.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
> If all you care about is security, then sure, you can say JavaScript is pretty much fine I think there are too many JS related issues for one to be able to say so. https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread shiretoko
> But Julian's essay is talking about nonfree or proprietary JavaScript code First of all, that's just wrong. Julian is explicitly talking about all javascript out there, free as well as non-free. Librejs aims to wipe out non-free javascript, but that's not enough to his eyes. If i understo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread niknyby
Yeah, Gitorious works as a place to host git repositories, but it doesn't have most of the features that GitHub provides. It would be nice to see an issue tracker in Gitorious, as well as a web hosting mechanism like onpon4.github.io is using.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!

2014-11-23 Thread jason
Bob = CTO, ThinkPenguin

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread niknyby
That doesn't matter, because JavaScript code can still do malicious things that you don't want it to do, like making an AJAX request to Google Analytics. Even if the JavaScript isn't doing something malicious, there are countless reasons why you would want to change what the code is doing.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Start up directory for Trisquel Mini?

2014-11-23 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Mini uses LXDE which uses Openbox. Put the commands to ~/.config/openbox/autostart

[Trisquel-users] Start up directory for Trisquel Mini?

2014-11-23 Thread hosh
Is there one, in order to place there programs that start after login? If not, what's an alternative strategy. Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I love Trisquel 7

2014-11-23 Thread lev . lazinskiy
I also agree. :) Trisquel 7 is the best release yet!

Re: [Trisquel-users] I love Trisquel 7

2014-11-23 Thread gromobir
I also agree with you. So far I didn't encounter any bugs and it really looks nice. :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Configure guest-login in Trisquel 7

2014-11-23 Thread davesamcdxv
Try /etc/skel.

[Trisquel-users] Cannot Update Star Catalogues in Stellarium

2014-11-23 Thread tesseract
I've just installed Stellarium, but cannot update the Star Catalogues in the configuration window.Catalogues 1 through 4 come preinstalled. Catalogue 5 will update, apparently, but then will not progress to Catalogue 6. I've tried uninstalling, then reinstalling the program to no avail. Any th

[Trisquel-users] Configure guest-login in Trisquel 7

2014-11-23 Thread jaumetbb
Hi all. I would like to know how to configure default settings for my guest login in Trisquel 7. There are a couple of things I would like for default (i.e. mouseclick with touchpad, which is disabled in default configuration). Every time I log out of my guest account, all settings are lost

Re: [Trisquel-users] Any DVD cover for this release?

2014-11-23 Thread bert . frohn
http://cdimage.trisquel.info/artwork/belenos/

Re: [Trisquel-users] I love Trisquel 7

2014-11-23 Thread franparpe
I agree with you, Trisquel is fantastic. I made the switch from debian to Trisquel and I'm very happy with it. =)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread davesamcdxv
"It basically reads like 'look how awefull it is that thousands of programs get installed and executed on our pcs from random sources without our permission" As somebody who hasn't quite got the expertise in programming would you please enlighten at least myself as to why it isn't (assuming

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automatically Installed JavaScript Must Die

2014-11-23 Thread davesamcdxv
https://gitorious.org

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this ARM64 Open Laptop Concept a free hardware notebook?

2014-11-23 Thread davesamcdxv
Well, don't say sorry yet because even after they said that I think they're still so far, a bit more open than Chris' computers! And I wouldn't mind Chris' computers so I think they're still fine.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!

2014-11-23 Thread davesamcdxv
Oh, OK. Maybe, just maybe, it'd be a little bit better if you wrote what the price is without tax and mark it as being what the price it without tax:)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!

2014-11-23 Thread davesamcdxv
Bob?