Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread greatgnu
>actually, yes and no! the nonfree parts are disabled by default. but if you want it to truly be free in every sense than do what I did. yeah, because the difference between a kernel that has 0 proprietary firmware and another one that has 0 proprietary firmware is absolutely

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread onpon4
Basically, if you have the proprietary firmware file (the one that has been removed by deblobbing), it will work in Debian's kernel, but not Linux-libre, because Linux-libre doesn't know to look for that file. This is a long-standing Linux-libre bug.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Ok. I'm not sure I undertstand what you mean by "unintended side effect of making it impossible to load said proprietary firmware." though.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
How far/close did you get?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
BTW, I'm trying to install IceCat from a tarball. I would expect to see a .deb file for installation but there is none. How/what do I install?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Ha ha. That is still an unsolved problem. I've been struggling for so long time now. I just wrote Leah Rowe to ask for further/clearer instructions

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
If you have used Full Disk Encryption, let me know how you got it to boot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
It mostly works fine for me, with one exception, it did me no harm, but before you accept it as the only kernel make sure you are satisfied and reboot once also... also follow jxself's instructions completely especially the libreboot part! since you are also using it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Thanks. I might try that, once I've gotten my librebooted machine to work.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Is it cumbersome to install linux libre?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
actually, yes and no! the nonfree parts are disabled by default. but if you want it to truly be free in every sense than do what I did.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Are you telling me, that my kernel is (probably) not free?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
Yes agreed, don't make a franken-debian... is in the debian guide but I am too lazy to look it up. so meh...

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread mtlben
This is all fine. Congratulations, you *are* running a free OS :). If you want to install Trisquel on that computer, I don't why there would be a problem installing it along Debian in a dual-boot setup, but I have no first-hand experience with Libreboot or your type of computer, so someone

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
pretty sure meh means indifference, but on an unrelated note, I am currently using debian but with one catch! linux libre 4.1! thanks Jxself!

Re: [Trisquel-users] No grub file

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
root@jb-x200:/home/jb/Hentninger/LB_util/libreboot_r20160907_util/flashrom/x86_64# ls -l totalt 4836 -rwxr-xr-x 1 jb jb 1649884 sep 2 15:42 flashrom -rwxr-xr-x 1 jb jb 1649884 sep 2 15:42 flashrom_lenovobios_macronix -rwxr-xr-x 1 jb jb 1649884 sep 2 15:42 flashrom_lenovobios_sst

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
meh?

Re: [Trisquel-users] No grub file

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
I opened a terminal in the folder where the flashrom file is. Wouldn't that give the same result?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Your battery status is being used to track you online

2016-11-11 Thread calmstorm
I thought you were going to say something about destroying all nonfree software and taking over the world to make it libre... ;p

Re: [Trisquel-users] No grub file

2016-11-11 Thread mappack
Replace "flashrom" in that command with the full path to flashrom. For example: /home/GNUbahn/Downloads/libreboot_util/flashrom

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
Thanks. My sources.list says: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official Multi-architecture amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20160917-18:46]/ jessie main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.6.0 _Jessie_ - Official Multi-architecture amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20160917-18:46]/ jessie main deb

[Trisquel-users] Re : How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread pinmaritim
> I suspect it's more that Ruben is preoccupied with his job at the FSF The aim here is to not have suspicions, guess's or any other speculation(s) but rather have real answers to our demands on the behalf of Ruben & the FSF,in this case the next release of Trisquel 8

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread onpon4
If you want to help Trisquel's development specifically, donating to Trisquel can help. Though in this case, like I said before, I suspect it's more that Ruben is preoccupied with his job at the FSF (probably due to the recent loss of a staff member), than that he's short on money. Donating

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread mkl80
I am new here and simple novice in Trisquel for about 4 months. I like trisquel a lot because it is free, and not a bad distro at all from my relatively lay point a view. A point of view of somebody that was using mint from about 2 years. But what I would like to say is that maybe the

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread mtlben
A default installation of Debian only has the main repository in its source list, and is a free OS. Do not manually add the contrib or non-free repositories, and you'll be fine. To make sure you only have main, let us see the content of /etc/apt/sources.list and we'll tell you if

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel repository in Debian

2016-11-11 Thread jbahn
For the time being and for annoying reasons I'm stuck with Debian on my Librebooted x200. I am not sure whether I am then running a free OS. If I understand FSF correctly, this can be obtained by un-installing or disabling Debians 'main' and 'contrib' repositories

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread onpon4
It would be nice if there were more updates on progress, but t3g, you know just as well as I do that nothing has changed here. If anything, Ruben communicated much less about the development of Trisquel 6 and Trisquel 7. In fact, it looks to me like the reason is exactly the same now as it

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread tegskywalker
People bashed me in the past for this, but the lack of communication from Ruben and the lack of any progress has many worried about this distro. People shouldn't have to hound him on IRC to get an update. He needs to follow through. Posts like these just reinforce the faith that is being

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread onpon4
Are Abrowser and IceDove out of date? Those are the only packages not taken care of upstream, IIRC.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread prian
Parabola is a great choice! I am a longtime user and it never disappointed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread greatgnu
>I'm a bit confused about what you could hope to achieve by emailing the FSF. If you ask this to me: nothing, I usually don't hope, that way I stay optimistic.. As I said I am just a messenger of a proposal I agree with in that it won't hurt and might help a bit. >Are you asking them to

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread martin_engqvist
I'm hoping that they can do something to reinvigorate the project and bring it back into a virtuous cycle where people help out working on it because they believe in it and sees progress being made. I have the feeling we are currently in a vicious cycle.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread martin_engqvist
This is great! I back this mail wholeheartedly. I too have been very worried about the lack of development in Trisquel. I use it as the main system on my laptop and would like to continue doing so. As for what we expect FSF to do about the state of affairs I'm not quite sure. But some sort

Re: [Trisquel-users] Gnash Won't Play Certain Flash Content

2016-11-11 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Indeed, HTML5 Video Everywhere is one of the best add-ons. Personaly, as a free/libre software activist myself, I would recommend one of the following combinations: * GNU LibreJS (to block only non-free software that is silently installed by the site makers on your browser. LibreJS also

Re: [Trisquel-users] How about we send a mail to the fsf, Trisquel could use some help.

2016-11-11 Thread onpon4
I'm a bit confused about what you could hope to achieve by emailing the FSF. Are you asking them to pay Ruben to work on it? Or possibly asking them to give him more free time? It could be that neither of these are possible. Besides, it would be more effective to contribute to Trisquel's