Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread enduzzer
I'd love to contribute; just don't see how it's feasible. I've tried Trisquel on macs many times in the past and now with the latest ISO. Etcher is no magic silver bullet. DD, my personal favourite, or any other program is capable of writing the ISO to disk but they won't show up. There's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-10 Thread hd-scania
But dnt forget that, my machines is an GPT system which stands for you have an ability installing and booting different systems at parallel. :) Of course I'm a Hyperbola user but I still need Parabola and PureOS to receive the latest free software packages, and Devuan and Trisquel as a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
OK, so at least two of us have access to Macs for testing (my wife's is an older MacBook - about 7-8 years old), that's great. It would be great to come up with a fairly reliable set of instructions for installing Flidas on Macs. Shall we start a separate thread to focus on this?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread onpon4
> Ah, Okay then.. welp I am confused... you said it had proprietary binaries in it I thought. No, it doesn't. I'm not sure what part of my posts you got that impression from, but PlayOnLinux is libre. What it has is installation recipes for proprietary software, since that's the job it's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread onpon4
> Since PlayOnLinux itself is already libre, the only way to make it "more" libre would be to remove support for proprietary games. onpon4's point is that since the only use for PlayOnLinux is to play proprietary games, removing support for proprietary games would make it useless. Exactly.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Newbie trying to load Trisquel on Acer Computer.

2018-04-10 Thread lcerf
If you can read French, here is a manual I wrote (translation is welcome!): https://trisquel.info/fr/wiki/d%C3%A9marrer-un-syst%C3%A8me-live-installable

[Trisquel-users] Re : Having trouble rotating console screen

2018-04-10 Thread lcerf
What are the errors you get?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Newbie trying to load Trisquel on Acer Computer.

2018-04-10 Thread superbyelich
I think what John is running into is the UEFI Bios. With most Win10 machines these days there aren't any prompts for BIOS setup. You usually see the manufacturer's logo and then a windows logo, and then the system boots. You usually have to be really quick with the setup key press. Once you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread Mason Hock
> What if I feel that your comments are spam? onpon4 makes many posts here that have helped people, including you, so if her comments seem unreasonable to you I'd ask her to clarify what she means instead of dismissing them. I think this is just a miscommunication resulting from the nuance

[Trisquel-users] Having trouble rotating console screen

2018-04-10 Thread Patrick
Hi Everyone I used to be able to rotate my Linux console so that if I typed ctrl-alt F1 thru F6, I could access virtual terminals that were also rotated vertically with my monitor. I tried to run this: sudo update-grub And I am getting errors. I altered my /etc/defalt/grub file before

Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-10 Thread calmstorm
Same with Hyperbola. only systemd is now effectively gone. :) Devuan init freedom/stability/security + Parabola libre importance = Hyperbola's way My point I guess is Hyperbola has all those advantages. Although it does have some weaknesses too of course... but for me they are well worth

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread calmstorm
Ah, Okay then.. welp I am confused... you said it had proprietary binaries in it I thought. Well either way, I still find it good to use playonlinux or winetricks rather then use straight forward windows or other proprietary oses. Take it for what it is worth. :/

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

2018-04-10 Thread cedricm33
My proposal for a masculine name : Mabon: Welsh god of freedom, harmony, unity, music and youth, known as the son of the Great Mother. (source)

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

2018-04-10 Thread cedricm33
I really like Etiona so I upvoted this post. My proposal for a feminine name : Oanuava: ancient Gallic earth goddess, a mother goddess who is regional revered as the source from which all life flows. (source)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-10 Thread hd-scania
Yes it's not yet come with the full OpenRC in Devuan, but in Parabola the full OpenRC is available as an independent init system other than systemd.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
> Don't you see the contradiction in this? You want to make it possible to play proprietary games "without... anything proprietary". That is literally speaking impossible. If X is a subset of Y, you can't have X with no Y. Apple is a fruit. Steve Job long time ago probably: I will make

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
Person A: I want this. Person B: Try this. Person C: Why do want this? This is not point. Person A/B: Person A (and perhaps) others want this because of X. Person C: But just use Z. Person A/B: But X seems a little bit cooler, let's talk about that. Person C: No, there is no point. etc etc

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
and perhaps others* (typo)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
I understand your confusion. Let me explain in another way: I love FLOSS culture. I love DotA 1. Being able to play DotA 1 entirely through free software would make me very happy. Before Wine, the only method of playing DotA 1 was to have Windows. Wine is a step towards the desire of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel Panic Using Virt-Manager on Trisquel and libreboot

2018-04-10 Thread aether
I had this issue with a x200 flashed to Libreboot two years ago. When I ran qemu with --enable-kvm or when I used libvirt (with virt-manager), it freezed and I was forced to hard shutdown. The x200 had a a P8400 Core 2 Duo, I don't remember the batch.. but on my current x200 (with a P8600)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread enduzzer
Trisquel 8 doesn't work. Burned an ISO to DVD using Finder's built in burner. All is fine but the disc won't show up at boot. At the same time, Debian 9 and Puppy Xenialpup boot just fine.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread onpon4
Spam definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamming

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread onpon4
> You see. My favorite game, the game I grew up with and I love is DotA 1. This game is a game inside the Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne. This game is proprietary and it is made for a proprietary OS. And what's going to help you install that is PlayOnLinux. Not a "libre" version that strips out

[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread lcerf
If it is free software and more user-friendly than "Burn", then it is indeed a good idea.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread onpon4
> What I mean by a libre playonlinux or winetricks-libre, is an effort to make it possible to play windows games without any blobs or anything proprietary at all. Don't you see the contradiction in this? You want to make it possible to play proprietary games "without... anything

Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-10 Thread elasca79
Devuan made this choice to install OpenRC during the installation, but in Devuan Jessie i had no problems installing OpenRC with apt-get, maybe some work with the services but it worked. I don't understand what do you say with SysV deps, OpenRC it's not a complete init like SysV or SystemD,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-04-10 Thread rakubx
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-mini

Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel Panic Using Virt-Manager on Trisquel and libreboot

2018-04-10 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-02-15T05:53:08+0100 goodstu...@msn.com wrote: > I am attempting to install PureOS 8.0 (beta) on a libreboot Taurinus > laptop running Trisquel 8 using virt-manager. Everytime I try to > create the PureOS virtual machine, I get a black screen filled with a > whole lot of meaningless stuff on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays, development meetings, 2018 plans

2018-04-10 Thread jason
Trisquel 9 will be based on the as-yet-unreleased Ubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver". Including systemd.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread enduzzer
I wonder if Red Hats's Fedora Media Writer could be modified to download and write Trisquel ISO to USB. It's available for Win/Mac/Linux. https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/04/26/fedora-media-writer-the-fastest-way-to-create-live-usb-boot-media/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-10 Thread hd-scania
Select expert mode installation at the very beginning to install OpenRC with Devuan? This is quite simply running pacman in an arch-chroot session in Parabola that there is not a pain. But for the currently installed Devaun systems (yes I have one) any measures to get the full OpenRC like

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
MagicBanana: >> Software dos not necessarily stop working because it is old. > If there is usable free software to install the live ISO, let us recommend that! We value freedom over convenience.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
Just tried using the Flidas USB I successfully used on my AA1 to boot up a live session on my wife's Mac (El Capitan). No dice. I held down the Option key, and got a screen allowing me to choose boot sources, but it didn't pick up the OS on the USB. Do I have to use a live USB *made* on a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
Hey onpon, it's good of you to say this, and I'm happy to be part of a community where we value being friendly and welcoming, and where it's ok and earns respect to admit when things go wrong. Respect. For the record, I sympathize with the point you were making. As you know, I'm pretty

Re: [Trisquel-users] Newbie trying to load Trisquel on Acer Computer.

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
Hi John, I also own an AA1, although mine is a bit older than yours (click on my name next to my comment to see the specs). Mine was originally sold with XP on it, and it runs Trisquel 8 nicely (running it off the USB as I post this), so I'm sure it will work fine on yours. Feel free to DM

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-04-10 Thread enduzzer
LXDE is OpenBOX. Add obconfig and obmenu. sudo apt install obconfig obmenu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
gd_scania >> But anyway you are of course free to install your favourite desktop using apt

[Trisquel-users] Re : Newbie trying to load Trisquel on Acer Computer.

2018-04-10 Thread lcerf
Your difficulty actually has nothing to do with GNU/Linux and everything to do with the piece of software on the motherboard that takes care of initializing the hardware and booting the operating. It needs to be configured to boot on the pendrive rather than on the hard drive. To enter

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 codename "Flidas" Release Candidate is ready for testing

2018-04-10 Thread strypey
Success! Today I: * used wget to download trisquel_8.0_i686.iso - check! * checked the md5sum - check! * used Startup Disk Creator in Belenos to create a bootable USB - check! * rebooted using the USB - check! * checked the integrity of the USB - check! * rebooted and launched a live session

Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-10 Thread calmstorm
Yep, mhm I have had experience with this. A bit of a pain but doable completely and totally.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread calmstorm
I disagree strongly with this, our first goal as a libre community is to get people off of... PROPRIETARY OPERATING SYSTEMS! Such as crapple, winblows and google crapbooks... Your context is meaningless for this reason. Such purity is admirable for libre culture, but it is harmful to expect

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
You are both saying things like "things is great", "this is bad" like you are some sort of authority. Please be more specific and explaining.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
> but it ain't so. Why? Why not?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-10 Thread elasca79
If you want to install OpenRC in Devuan ascii you have to choose expert mode installation, then you will have a dialog to choose OpenRC, it's pretty cool.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread enduzzer
What if I feel that your comments are spam? Feel free to feel but it ain't so. Onpon4, in my books, is one of the most proficient contributors to this forum. You should pay attention to ewhat she has to say.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
The way I see your behaviour is that you are comming into posts and comments and just comments negative things. I have a suggestion for you : Look at the titles in the forum, do you see a title where you can contribute to thread topic or help the OP, please contribute. If you see nothing

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
What if I feel that your comments are spam?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Does PlayOnLinux work with Trisquel 8?

2018-04-10 Thread svenerik_vn
Your language is very ultimatistic. You are using words like "there is", "it is", and forgetting that not everybody shares your opinion. For you, there is no point in having a libre playonlinux. For me that would be totally awesome and definitely something to strive against. You see. My

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays, development meetings, 2018 plans

2018-04-10 Thread hd-scania
I would like to see if Trisquel 9 is to liberate Devuan 2 "ascii" main, or simply importing OpenRC to the system from Devuan codebase.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-04-10 Thread hd-scania
But anyway you are of course free to install your favourite desktop using apt, simply you are not forced to be stuck at LXDE if uncomfortable. I would like to recommend LXQt.

[Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops

2018-04-10 Thread hd-scania
In different libre system I run very different desktops, just a kindly sharing here, Parabola: LXQt and Liri, all in Qt in this systems which I need to receive the latest Qt tech here, with just GParted, AbiWord, Gnumeric from GNOME w/o Qt alternatives. GNOME and the most forked desktops are