Re: [Trisquel-users] Minimal Installation

2018-09-06 Thread jackflitton
I know there's the option to do that and that's great but I'm an amateur when it comes to the nitty gritty of GNU/Linux and I know that there are many people whose knowledge is similar. It would be so much easier just to have a minimal installation option in the installer for less technical

Re: [Trisquel-users] Minimal Installation

2018-09-06 Thread aether
Use network install, do not install DE, only core packages and utilities, reboot, log in to console and build from here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread jason
Right. Those things (add-ons and Firefox and Thunderbird and other Mozilla-branded things like the Rust programming language as well as other things) are all good candidates to be handled in a cross-distro way as well. Currently the FSF-endorsed distros each solve that problem on their own

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread onpon4
Most that I'm aware of already are, though there's sometimes a problem of them not being available for Python 3 (in particular Pygame and Pyglet; note, both of these libraries work with Python 3, so this is a packaging problem in both cases). I tend to think of my own libraries (sge,

[Trisquel-users] Minimal Installation

2018-09-06 Thread jackflitton
Since Trisquel 9.0 will presumably be based on Ubuntu 18.04, I'm wondering if there will be a minimal install option, ie; web browser and basic utilities only. I'm very new to Trisquel and while it is a great OS, it took a while to uninstall the packages I didn't need which would end up

Re: [Trisquel-users] Wi-Fi disconnecting very often

2018-09-06 Thread martinhogg
what is the output of: sudo lshw -class network just so we know what wifi chip etc is in use.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I want to help

2018-09-06 Thread Mason Hock
> https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/flidas/CONTRIBUTING.md Note that this[1] is required for trisquel-builder to work with Flidas. For some reason I get an error when I try to view "Changes", but the modified files are here[2][3][4] and using those to replace the versions

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread Mason Hock
It occurs to me that if creating a cross-distro free replacement repository is realistic, a better target might be addons.mozilla.org Firefox and Thunderbird addons are used more frequently and by non-developers, Trisquel is already attempting to maintain a free replacement[1] manually, and the

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread Mason Hock
> I tend to think that PyPI is less important than you might think. Thanks, onpon4. You would know much better than I how useful pip is to developers, so I'm sure you're right. Do you mind clarifying though whether by > important libraries > should just be included in the regular repo. you mean

[Trisquel-users] I want to help

2018-09-06 Thread happy_gnu
Hello. A while back I talked about wanting to help trisquel. After a few personal problems, I think I am ready to help now. As Magic Banana suggested I read https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/flidas/CONTRIBUTING.md and

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread Mason Hock
> It's a nice idea but as you've said it's hard to do in an automated way. > Some human intervention will always be needed. Yeah, you're probably right. There's so much ambiguity in the license statements that any automated approach aggressive enough to remove all proprietary software would also

Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread Mason Hock
> Maybe an issue could be filed to propose to adopt a machine-readable > license format. Maybe that of Debian's packages: > https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/ which > itself uses the SPDX License List, i.e., https://spdx.org/licenses/ That would be a massive

[Trisquel-users] Wi-Fi disconnecting very often

2018-09-06 Thread mcz
I tried Wicd instead of Network-manager, it's the same result. I reinstalled the ath9k driver (it's a dongle bought from technoethic which still works as far as I can tell). What else could I try ? Thank you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread Caleb Herbert
linux-libre isn't even allowed to mention the name of non-free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread alonivtsan
I agree with onpon4. In addition, pip does not require cryptographic package signing using tools such as GPG so you could be downloading altered packages if someone breaks into the PyPI website and replaces a package with a malicious version. PyPI did in fact contain malicious packages in

[Trisquel-users] Re : FSDG and pip

2018-09-06 Thread lcerf
RMS wrote: We should look for volunteers to make replacement repositories for a couple of them, based on automatic filtering not manual vetting. https://lists.libreplanet.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2016-04/msg00078.html Maybe an issue could be filed to propose to adopt a