IIRC, it was still Gnome, but I was able to tweak it to look enough like
Gnome 2 to be usable. I might be misremembering Wheezy as Jessie, though.
Devuan Jessie default is XFCE but I've never used it.
Haven't tried MATE in years..heh, must..try..mate..ahora..mismo x_X
/me wonders what amazing improvements have been brought in
I've been using Debian derivatives since 2004ish and have to admit that my
mentors were right and not just underestimating me and being condescending
when they advised me that I would be fine technically but just plain not a
good fit for the Debian community.
I wish I could call them all a
SuperTramp83
i AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. one OF MY DESKTOPS IS JUST DEBIAN..
onpon4
Lol
Like Americans use the word armor but the french and British used the word
Armour
LOL
Let's keep it all together in the same project people! :)
c...@bluehome.net writes:
> I may have said it in a mean way, but I have been seeing so much
> fragmentation lately that nobody is getting any work done.
He is doing work... see the "Code" link in the menu in the right side of
the main page. Also if I recall correctly, Trisquel has a development
mailing list.
nos...@nospam.com writes:
> I think Trisquel 8.0 should be Trisquel 9.0.
>
> Trisquel, if it is to remain in sync with Ubuntu, should
viejo..
I have used Debian for over 3 years now and I don't plan to switch, I enjoy
it like it is, never a bug, never a crash, just pure awesome raw powaaa :)
You can use one provided by Disroot ;) [shine]
I vote "stay" in Ubuntu for know.
Supertramp
Remember my first libre gnu linux distro was trisquel 5. Of course I have
migrated to other Gnu-Linux distros based on Debian, Because I have growth,
becoming more understandable and knowledgeable in the matter. Before I was
reading and absorbing tons of information,just plain
Super tramp
Yes it is stable, but to learn debian it was not an easy one. But to be able
to learn trisquel. it has been my fundamental curb for me.
I agree with you on this one.
An additional difference from the ones mentioned by other users:
Debian accepts the Artistic License 1.0 as free software while the FSF does
not.
Thus Debian contains Simutrans in the “free” section, while a
distribution that follows the FSF guidelines would not include it at all.
I once
I may have said it in a mean way, but I have been seeing so much
fragmentation lately that nobody is getting any work done.
Keep your hair on Calher. There may be good reasons someone wants to start a
new project rather than join an existing one. A friendly suggestion to help
with an existing distro is fine. But it's just mean to tell people their
efforts to help free software are "harmful and helps nobody", or
As the FSF says:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/
"[...] if you want to make an effective contribution to free GNU/Linux
distributions, we suggest that you join the development of an existing free
distro rather that starting a new free distro."
I do think it's French, but we pronounce it "MAR-chent" (like "merchant", but
with the "A" from "car" instead of the "E"). My grandfather at my dad's side
was apparently adamant that he was British and not French (he came from
Canada), so who knows.
My mind's reading voice pronounces your last name like a French word. Is
there a more Anglicized way to say it?
Stop fragmenting labor. What you are doing is harmful and helps nobody. Help
an existing project or don't help at all. Your little pet project is a waste
of labor, and you should be ashamed.
The DFSG follows the Definition of Free Cultural Works, and the DFSG
seems to be less strictier in terms of recommending non-free functional
data (because the project currently has "contrib" and "nonfree"
repositories).
The Definition of Free Cultural Works applies exactly the same set of
"plus official backports (main branch only) which will provide a newer
kernel."
I thnk jxself already handles that anyway (though the kernels don't come from
Debian AFAIK)
If you really need Qt but dnt wanna engage much RAM you instead need LXQt, it
is Qt-only thin client desktop like Lumina from the FreeBSD universe.
KDE instead integrates Qt, Gtk+, Gtk2 which must engage too much your RAM.
Gtk+ desktops like GNOME, MATE, Cinnamon, Xfce, are they thin clients as
So what are the few but distinct differences between our FSDG (GNU Free OS
distribution guidelines) and their DFSG (Debian software freedom guidelines)?
I instead want to make an gNewSense derivative instead of helping them, an
another dead GNU system, Blag, I also need to derive it to my new sources
based GNU system, Blag was rpm-based and rpm sources are as sources based as
Gentoo (Ututo, its derivative, was also an GNU system).
After a decade or so of running GNU-Linux on the desktop, I've learned the
hard way that the newest version is *not* always the best version. My first
distro was Ubuntu, and I always used to upgrade to the latest version as soon
as it come out. But this did not give me the most stable OS,
On 27/10/17 22:12, wrote:
> I think Trisquel 8.0 should be Trisquel 9.0.
I was afraid that this moment would eventually come. That the
delay of Trisquel 8 (more than one year) would grow to the point that it
would be suggested to wait for the next Ubuntu LTS release - and that it
would have
KDE may be beautiful but it also uses more RAM than almost any other Desktop
Environment. In fact, with the death of Unity, KDE may now be the most
bloated DE.
Having played around with Mint, with both Cinammon and Mate, I think the
choice of Mate for Trisquel 8 is a good one.
Since the
I vote "stay" in Ubuntu.
I like its user friendly environment that I see in Trisquel. Not Unity of
course.
Debian is not user friendly for newcomers.
Debian Stretch will install Mate, if you accept the defaults. I forget what
Jessie would do.
I think Trisquel 8.0 should be Trisquel 9.0.
Trisquel, if it is to remain in sync with Ubuntu, should follow the current
Ubuntu LTS. Since 8.0 still has not materialized, we should take advantage of
this "opportunity", and re-set to release 8.0 based on Ubuntu 18.04. (Bionic
Beaver?) Why
There are various flavors of Debian, you can download an ISO with Xfce, MATE,
LXDE, Cinnamon..
>I think that Debian is rock solid and even the testing version is perfect
for every day use.
this.
> Is there any chance that your surname is Shuttleworth or something like it?
Marchant. Julie Marchant.
> Ubuntu is build starting fron Debian Unstable (Sid)
Yes. So is Debian.
> there basically no chance that, after all the Canical patches, it will end
up to be more stable that the Debian
I think the latest update to her current distribution of choice is "Ubuntu".
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/who-community-honestly-runs-trisquel-gnulinux#comment-121107
I think that Debian is rock solid and even the testing version is perfect for
every day use. Ubuntu LTS is based on Debian testing and not on the unstable
as well as Trisquel.
onpon4
you are probably the only human being in the planet who claims that Ubuntu is
more stable or perform better than Debian.
Is there any chance that your surname is Shuttleworth or something like it?
Anyway everyone has the right to have own opinions, right?
So keep using your beloved
> Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable and it obviously more bloted than its
source
That doesn't follow.
> Debian division beetwenn free and non-free is clean and accurate in repos
and packages, the one you are claiming for Ubuntu is, to be kind, obscure
There are really not that many
Here a couple of reason why switching to Debian will be advantageus:
- Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable and it obviously more bloted than its
source
- Debian division beetwenn free and non-free is clean and accurate in repos
and packages, the one you are claiming for Ubuntu is, to be kind,
Most of Ubuntu's proprietary software is separated out, too. I don't see
switching to a Debian base as advantageous. Heck, I personally would have
very little reason to use Trisquel if it were based on Debian.
I heard gNewSense is dead though. And what would be a good polling website
then? I agree with you about the Debian version though.
This poll requires proprietary software in the form of JavaScript in the web
browser.
Trisquel should stay on Ubuntu LTS. If you want Debian, go help gNewSense.
Answer at https://www.poll-maker.com/poll1922291xBcBf4686-51
When I have recorded enough responses, I will email to the main developers
Reason to support Debian: Trisquel could be based on Jesse (main branch
only). This uses the debian Kernel which already divides free from non-free
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