Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2014-01-03 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
În 2014-01-03 16:11, shiret...@web.de a scris: "If the leadership or the hierarchy is denying him freedoms, he can choose to overthrow that leadership or he can break from the group," Many hierarchies deny freedoms. That doesn't make hierarchy wrong, that doesn't mean all hierarchies deny fre

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2014-01-03 Thread shiretoko
"If the leadership or the hierarchy is denying him freedoms, he can choose to overthrow that leadership or he can break from the group," Many hierarchies deny freedoms. Only because you can re-gain your freedom doesn't make you more free at the moment. If you see it that way, I could argue that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2014-01-03 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
În 2014-01-03 14:40, shiret...@web.de a scris: real slavery (which doesn't exist anymore in most western countries) By law it's forbidden in most of the countries, not only in western ones. Nevertheless, slavery is still a practice even in western countries. It was not only once I read of imm

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2014-01-03 Thread shiretoko
"Hierarchy has nothing to do with slavery. For instance, I am not a slave of Ruben for trusting his lead of the Trisquel project. And there a lot of other examples." You're permanently defining the meaning of the word "freedom" so you can reach somehow the conclusion that nothing takes away you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2014-01-03 Thread Tiberiu C. Turbureanu
În 2014-01-03 12:39, shiret...@web.de a scris: "No proof needed. Every animal strives for freedom (even the domestic ones). Humans are no different." Freedom is definitly not the highest goal for animals. Many of them put themselves under the control of a hirarchy (in tribes, for instance) in or

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Is ethic really good argument for FLOSS?

2014-01-03 Thread shiretoko
"No proof needed. Every animal strives for freedom (even the domestic ones). Humans are no different." Freedom is definitly not the highest goal for animals. Many of them put themselves under the control of a hirarchy (in tribes, for instance) in order to increase their chances of survival.