Agreed
Well yes, we'll need to replace the own v. hire thingy with something a bit
more legally true (thanks for noting that!) but at least you get where I was
trying to go with my text
I'm in broad agreement with you. However, at present Trisquel
development is pretty much Rubén alone. So until those of us who are
making fools of ourselves :-) on trisquel-devel make the grade and we
have more devs then it's Hobsons Choice really ('Like it or lump
it.'). By all means chat
Leny2010
I'll have to agree with you. Donations, and volunteers is a most to have.
Specially when you have to navigate, the strict rules and standards of
maintaining a FSF credible distribution.
As Ruben said at LibrePlanet, Trisquel isn't about the bleeding edge,
because the user is
Leny2010
It does not take a genius to fix those Le petite problems.
Anyhow since the beginning TRISQUEL it always has gallop the finite legacy
of a GNU/LINUX distro. I'm not yet incline, to say mediocre so soon, but
close enough to think of it slightly.
Actually, the 6.0.1 package doesn't depend on polkit-kde-1, but the 7.0 one
does. So I don't think it's fixed in 6.0.1 yet.
Actually, the 6.0.1 package doesn't depend on polkit-kde-1, but the
7.0 one does. So I don't think it's fixed in 6.0.1 yet.
I did a Triskel install from the 6.0.1 netinst and didn't need to put
polkit-kde-1 on. It might be that the actual package dependencies
haven't been fixed. However,
It should still be added as a dependency. I installed from the regular
Trisquel iso and installed the triskel package. (I have both GNOME and KDE)
It should still be added as a dependency. I installed from the regular
Trisquel iso and installed the triskel package. (I have both GNOME and
KDE)
Rubén said in the developer meeting where Triskel was dropped that
defect support was now limited to the packages on Trisquel install
media, all
... As in fix R6 bugs in the R7 alpha. we can always tell a user to
move to the latest release.
Leny
t3g said:
I tried out the recent build of Trisquel 7 today, and the default desktop
environment looks very amateur. The panels look outdated and the default
fonts are ugly to look at.
You figured that things could get better than 6 considering the new
libraries, but Ruben either doesn't
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/install-budgie-evolve-os-desktop-ubuntu-14-04
There's this new DE from the guy that created (and abandoned) SolusOS and the
Consort desktop. It looks promising and it clearly draws inspiration from
ChromeOS.
Of course its still very early and the author
I'm sure if someone were to develop a better look and submit the
patches on trisquel-devel they would be welcome. Fiurther the R7
alpha is out, so the code base is there to work from if someone wants
to re-theme Trisquel . If people don't have those skills then
becoming an associate member
Ruben has had way over a year to fix the theme with 6. It seems like he is
going to leave it as is without any effort. What makes you think he is
suddenly going to revamp the interface when the OS is already lagging behind
in its release.
It sucks, considering there are improvements to the
I don't know what you're talking about. The triskel package isn't from
Kubuntu, so there's no upstream. It's one of Trisquel's own packages, and
therefore it's Trisquel's responsibility to fix it.
I don't know if you're familiar with Debian packaging, but triskel is a
metapackage, which
BTW, most patches have very little to change for the next release (or are
unneeded), especially ones that just import from upstream, and most of my
patches just import from upstream.
The mention of Kubuntu was to indicate that a distro with a lot more
developer resources took ages to fix the same problem with their
kubuntu-desktop metapackage (and haven't backported it either). If
they are 'lack lustre' in fixing this sort of thing in a timely
fashion what is a 'one [part
It was not fixed in the iso release. The actual problem is that, if you have
Trisquel GNOME installed, you have policykit-gnome-1, which apper/muon are
supposed to work with (but don't). Apper/Muon depend on either
policykit-gnome-1 or polkit-kde-1, so if you already have policykit-gnome-1,
Quite by accident I checked the this on the web, rather than rely on the
email. So I'll stand corrected on the detail of the bug, but send stuff about
trisquel-devel to your inbox. We have much to learn from each other.
I also remember him having a fall out with the LMDE project early on.
You are wrong. We don't own Trisquel as it is the copyrighted work of Ruben.
Sure, we have the freedom to run, modify, and redistribute, but Trisquel uses
packages from Ubuntu which in return is based off of Debian.
I think that the current look, the gtk theme is really beautiful. The icons
in the indicator panel applet changed and now they have a modern look.
Probably with an update of some other icons, of the default wallpaper and
perhaps the panel's default color, Trisquel 7 will be really perfect.
Ok, I guess that is a benefit.
But really, does anyone actually run a system with
RAM is cheaper, but if you've got an old PC lying at home and don't know how
to fit a new one or just have got more of a desire to look for a low-resource
OS than to actually go to a computer store.
You know, if Trisquel is so concerned about Accessibility I think it's a bit
of a waste that the main site doesn't market it as such.
This is a good point. The word accessability doesn't currently appear on the
front page.
We don't have much about accessibility in the documentation either
Actually, to be fair, nothing on the front page really promotes Trisquel. The
closest thing to it is the description that Trisquel is a fully free
operating system which I'd find uninteresting were it not for my interest in
going fully free.
I reckon it'd be more attractive if the front
I think Cinnamon would be better. Or GNOME Shell but make it
RHEL's-Distrowatch-screenshot-esque (Or GNOME Classic but perhaps with the
panel on top, Cairo-dock on the bottom setup).
Vanilla GNOME Shell would take new users for too much of a spin, I think.
Though if Trisquel puts a welcome
I think Triskel is basically abandoned. It's just a metapackage with no
custom settings. If you install the triskel package, the package manager
doesn't even work because polkit-kde-1 isn't installed. Also, until I
submitted a patch, Abrowser looked really ugly in KDE with the default Oxygen
The polkit-kde-1 thing was fixed in 6.0.1.
I test installed Triskel 7 today. Some rough edges but it seems to
have inherited pretty directly from Kubuntu this time e.g. Amarok is
the default audio player and there's an empty cruft Firefox short cut
in launcher favourites. IMO it's still
@davidnotcoulthard This is a good start on the new front page text. I like
how you distinguish Trisquel from the proprietary alternatives with which
folks are more familiar. It may need some work on distinguishing Trisquel
from the other GNU/Linux distributions. Every distro's front page
Care to post a few before and after screenshots?
With Belenos still being in alpha I execpt the theme has yet to be completed.
I think it looks the same as Trisquel 6.
Oh good! I'm perfectly happy with that, and IIRC Linux Action Show
described it as 'one of the best Gnome 3s we've seen.' YMMV.
Netinstall? I prefer debootstrapping :)
Having said that I think it'd be great if Cinnamion is the default DE in
Trisquel, just open up a new repository for trisquel (other than edition,
edition-updates, and edition-security) and title it belenos-Cinnamon!
As for hardware acceleration I
What's it like for Accessibility?
Considering MATE's and Trisquel's GNOME 2 past, I doubt that'd be a problem.
The GTK+ theme there was supposed to show Trisquel ('s current default
theme) - Unfortunately it got covered in the screenshot by a menu.
Oh, and the shot actually shows Trisquel Dagda.
I think the beauty is important too, because it can show to new people that a
truly free system can be wonderful in a glance.
Although is important to worry about desktop environments that require too
much memory: many people outside Europe and North America still have
computers from five
You can do software. I have an Nvidia card that works with free drivers and
has 3D acceleration, so this isn't a problem:
http://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/232/NVIDIA-Corporation-GF108--GeForce-GT-430---rev-a1-
Their new function (applets, panels, docks etc) would have to have it
enabled/coded in. Gnome 3 had a special fundraiser annd year of
accessibility.
Accessibilty is one of Rubén's key factors when he decides. Support from
ATI/AMD users with no hardware 3D is another. However, as I've
I still think Trisquel should use GNOME Shell by default and offer LXDE
(Trisquel Mini) for those who want a lightweight system. The big reason GNOME
is being used is accessibility, right? Wouldn't GNOME Shell be better for
that? I guess it might be just knowing how to use it, but it seems
There are such things as laptops with AMD/ATI GPUs.
I prefer GNOME Classic Mode from 3.8+ than Cinammon. RHEL 7 uses GNOME 3.8
Classic by default:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Screenshot_rhel7-gnome_2014-06-11_17_06_46.png
@onpon4 I think the main reason GNOME is still used is the accessibility.
GNOME Shell's accessibility is much improved since version 3.4 (as in
Trisquel6), so, Shell with llvm pipe, or something, for accelleration should,
perhaps, be the new default. Shell is slow, especially with
I like the default desktop, at least after I've changed the background image
to one matching my screen resolution. It's clear, clean and simple. I don't
like Windows-like eye candy being added to cinnamon. It serves no useful
purpose.
I tried out the recent build of Trisquel 7 today, and the default desktop
environment looks very amateur. The panels look outdated and the default
fonts are ugly to look at.
You figured that things could get better than 6 considering the new
libraries, but Ruben either doesn't care or
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