Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/18/2004 6:27:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Such a mixed up lot ...   A you are part of the mix  --  awesome. J

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/18/2004 2:59:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this Bishop amoral? Only God is amoral. John

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Knpraise
>   Do you know. > Way off the subject, I know, but my one of my son-in-laws sent me this psot.  Thought I would pass it on.  John >   1.  How many steps does the guard take during his walk across the tomb of the unknowns and why? > > >   21 steps.  It all

Re: [TruthTalk] Suspicions

2004-06-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/18/2004 10:54:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently everyone should be given communion, no matter how big a rascal that person might be, so that we don't have disagreements dividing us. I suspect that she was Canadian . Terry No rules, no divis

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/18/2004 10:00:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris:  Correct you are Chris.  I was speaking of fundamentalism within a broad group called evangelicalism.  I place you outside this group.  The fundamentalists I was referring to are DavidM, Izzy, Judy and

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/18/2004 8:08:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jonathan made his first post here 3/29/04.  His challenge was responded to by:   moi Smithson Clifton   ... and ... DRUMROLL PLEASE ...   Izzy -- though her response was indirect and evasive.  Also, she

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Knpraise
Jonathon, I am going to pick at your post a little.   Much of it is agreeable.  Some is not..And that is why we have TT. John the Beloved In a message dated 6/18/2004 7:30:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I picked my sister up from the airport last night.  She lives in t

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Slade Henson
Hello all.   I was wondering if you could critique this little bit I drew up this evening/morning. I give a hearty [and hopeful] "thank you" to those who participate.   -- slade     Within Jewish circles, the portion of Torah read over this Shabbat/Sabbath is Numbers 16:1-18:32. This por

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread ttxpress
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:56:25 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6/18, Terry wrote: <<..[On the news] They were talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John Kerry to take communion because of

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Terry Clifton
Chris Barr wrote: \o/ !HALALU YAH! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua!     Well, Jonathan, you noted that 'none of the ‘fundamentalists’ on this forum replied, not one of them' yet then note Terry as one of those fundamentalists.  Terry was one who

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what's his name? G ~ P 235 = I don't have a clue.  I can't even remember my own name most of the time. Larry, jerry, Harry?  

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU YAH! \o/Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua!     Well, Jonathan, you noted that 'none of the ‘fundamentalists’ on this forum replied, not one of them' yet then note Terry as one of those fundamentalists.  Terry was one who replied.  You missed that as sure as Izzy mi

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread ttxpress
what's his name? G ~ P 235   On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:56:25 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6/18, Terry wrote: <<..[On the news] They were talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John Kerry

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6/18, Terry wrote: <<..[On the news] They were talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John Kerry to take communion because of his stand on abortion.>>   Is this Bishop amoral? ===

RE: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches   Chris:  Correct you are Chris.  I was speaking of fundamentalism within a broad group

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread ttxpress
6/18, Terry wrote: <<..[On the news] They were talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John Kerry to take communion because of his stand on abortion.>>   Is this Bishop amoral?   --   On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:09:34 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, Your posts are always PRICELESS! Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches      Jonathan: If you do not know enough abou

RE: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
I never assume anything with Lance.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches   Iz:(intruder) You really don't know?? Sent: June

[TruthTalk] Re:Fundamentalist

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
Would tend to say: 1. Way too much inclusivity & lattitude for me 2. I like my God angrier and more judgemental than that 3. Sounds a little too much like universalism to me 4. (Scripture) means what it says/says what it means 5. Did you hear about? 6. A little too 'worldly' for my likin

[TruthTalk] Suspicions

2004-06-18 Thread Terry Clifton
Was watching the news last night. They were talking about some Catholic bishop somewhere who said that he would not allow John Kerry to take communion because of his stand on abortion. They then interviewed several Catholic parishioners to see if they agreed with the bishop. Most of them ha

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Terry Clifton
Jonathan Hughes wrote: Morning all,   I picked my sister up from the airport last night.  She lives in the United States and works there as a children’s pastor.  I mentioned the discussions we have been having here regarding Bush’s policies, America’s responsibility, repentan

RE: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Chris:  Correct you are Chris.  I was speaking of fundamentalism within a broad group called evangelicalism.  I place you outside this group.  The fundamentalists I was referring to are DavidM, Izzy, Judy and Terry. Izzy:  I made my main point against fundamentalism in my post: the hardnes

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU YAH! \o/Joyous New Moon Greetings again in the Matchless Name of YahShua!   Jonathan made his first post here 3/29/04.  His challenge was responded to by:   moi Smithson Clifton  ... and ... DRUMROLL PLEASE ...   Izzy -- though her response was indirect and evasive.  Also, she

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
Iz:(intruder) You really don't know?? Sent: June 18, 2004 10:47 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches Hi Jonathan,  No time for me to linger here (however tempting it is to makes jokes about us not being fruits!).  Just wondering when you posted your question

RE: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi Jonathan,  No time for me to linger here (however tempting it is to makes jokes about us not being fruits!).  Just wondering when you posted your question that no one answered? Because I remember David M posting that question several months ago and getting several thoughtful replies; one

Re: [TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Dave
DAVEH:   Hmm.too bad you weren't here when the vocal street preachers were peaching from their virtual soapboxes.. Jonathan Hughes wrote: Morning all,   I picked my sister up from the airport last night.  She lives in the United States and works there as a childr

[TruthTalk] My Sister and Peaches

2004-06-18 Thread Jonathan Hughes
Morning all,   I picked my sister up from the airport last night.  She lives in the United States and works there as a children’s pastor.  I mentioned the discussions we have been having here regarding Bush’s policies, America’s responsibility, repentance, and the reflective approach to 9

RE: [TruthTalk] While we snooze

2004-06-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, I’m not sure about “illegal” bombing.  Huge loss of life is one reason we should NOT get involved, ever again, in a war that we do not intend to use enough force to WIN.  I know America has repented of that—every last one of us. Izzy   PS If you aren’t aware of it, any soldier that

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, Please get a grip.  America REPENTED of the slavery that was done here (even though not government sanctioned.)  That is what we call the CIVIL WAR, in which more Americans died than in all other wars combined and on our own soil.  That was the judgment and the repentance.  We also h

Re: [TruthTalk] While we snooze

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
Izzy:Illegal bombing. Approx loss of life 100,000. That's what the Kent State shootings were over. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 18, 2004 09:30 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] While we snooze Dearest Lance,   “Am

RE: [TruthTalk] While we snooze

2004-06-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dearest Lance,   “America” did not leave bastard children in Korea and Viet Nam.  Some individual soldiers did, which is the case in every war in history.  How can America repent of what some individual soldiers did?  On the other hand, you neglect to give equal credit for the multiple th

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
Terry:Half truths are quite wonderful in that, whichever side you take up you score a point.- Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 18, 2004 08:09 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (e.g.) does the Vatican's perception of Amerca's invasion of Iraq originate in liberalism?   whoever thinks it does, could you allow the Vatican (perspective on) morality to influence your value system? G ~ P 235  ===

Re: [TruthTalk] Americans, Canadians, Lions, Tigers, Oh My!

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
Judyt:You do do good research. US/Cambodia: check it out. Your evasive tone is akin to: 'Oh ya! I think I'm a pretty good person 'just as I am'. Participating in Christ is totally unnecessary.'   History books in Japan & Germany have tended toward fuzziness when addressing the years 1939-1945

[TruthTalk] Americans, Canadians, Lions, Tigers, Oh My!

2004-06-18 Thread Judy Taylor
Then why so critical of the US in so many other areas Lance?  Slavery came upon this country gradually beginning with the British and Dutch initially bringing African people to American shores on their ships.  Shouldn't the repentance begin with them since they corrupted the young Colony. 

Re: [TruthTalk] While we snooze

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
John:Thanks again. Real reconciliation between us and them (generic) is something I'm still thinking through. It hasn't, as I see it, taken place yet. Goodness, it doesn't even take place on TT. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
John:Thanks.Extreme characterizations (something, of course, never perpetrated by the likes of me?) shut down conversation.Does anyone know what a 'sucker punch' is? Yes/No.   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 18, 2004 00

Re: [TruthTalk] Americans, Canadians, Lions, Tigers, Oh My!

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
Judyt:We 'chaps' don't want that! I, for one, am deeply greatful for every woman/man who has given their life in these places for the cause of freedom. As to your characterization of the intent of Islam. Again, I agree. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
Izzy:Don't embarrass yourself. Read the post again. In speaking of the 'West' (David appears to know nothing of the 'western tradition'), I spoke of Britain's responsibility for what was done by them in India. I then spoke of America's responsibility for it's complicity in the slave trade (r

Re: [TruthTalk] While we snooze

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
Izzie(et al): Am I to understand that you take umbrage at the hint of repentance as a nation because you honestly don't know of anything done to warrant such?    1.Abandoned bastard (so-called) children in Korea and Viet Nam. 2. Cambodia. Do you know what your government did there?   There'

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-18 Thread Lance Muir
G:What is a 'value system'?Once defined, does this 'system' find favor with God? I'm given to understand that words matter to you. L - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 18, 2004 00:15 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered