i hv sn smlr thngs whr ltrs r lft ot nd th txt s stl rdbl.
From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: "TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org"
Subject: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: [Fwd: Fw: FW: (no subject)]]
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:33:01 -0500
-
John, you are not alone.
Ter
In a message dated 4/14/2005 9:46:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The author is Dr Samuel Gipp earned degree not home grown.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/14/2005 4:09:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I - Comparison: How Jesus used
In a message dated 4/15/2005 7:21:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wrong again, JD. They are all to YOU. Izzy
Get your bible and read these passages, Linda. And then, give me an biblical explanation why your comments above is true.
Jd
In a message dated 4/15/2005 6:33:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-
John, you are not alone.
Terry
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from rly-yh06.mx.aol.com (rly-yh06.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.70]) by air-yh03.mail.aol.com (v105.26) with ESMTP id MAILINY
myth (a good example of a
false conclusion in its context =
>This is exactly why the learned have no
understanding of the spiritual content.
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:29:14 -0500 "Caroline Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I'm totally stunned but I fully agree with Kevin here. The
bible
JD If you want a list so bad, go ahead and make yourself one.
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
So that is where JD got his degree? Cmabrigde UinervtisyTerry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John, you are not alone.Terry
Typoglycemia Don't delete this because it looks weird. Believe it or not you can read it . I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I
In a message dated 4/15/2005 10:51:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you really have done #1, then #2 will become clear to you. J Izzy
Bill --- the right-wingers will never give you a list. But maybe I didn't say "please." so paaalleeese keep trying.
J
No Fear JD
the LORD pitieth them that fear him.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/14/2005 10:53:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How could a loving God use such harsh terns? So go ahead tone it down for him! PS 78 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath
Throw out the old it does not apply anymore.
it was just for Jews anyway.
JD is a Newe Testamint ManicheanShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wrong again, JD. They are all to YOU. Izzy
Keep those O.T. cards and letters coming. His administration changed with the New Covenant
One group of TTers believe God is holy, judge,
righteous as well as love. They would probably say that if we do right, God
loves us. If we do wrong, He still loves us but we come under His correction.
Another group of TTers believe God is love and his
other characteristics flow out of His
Were you actually going to say something of substance and just forgot or what???
In a message dated 4/15/2005 4:20:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:24:38 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
The Assemblies' official teaching (unless t
I'm no longer as involved due to time constraints.
I help out a friend who hosts intercession seminars. My experiences are varied.
Mostly it's intercessors from various churches coming together to pray as the
Lord leads for the city or the country: political corruption, body shops,
education
In a message dated 4/14/2005 11:31:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John Fear of God has nothing to do with religious nonsense. Huh ?? I had to learn this early on or I would be lying in
a heap somewhere along with the ppl you claim I have "put down" Sory Judy, but I do n
Wrong again, JD. They are all to
YOU. Izzy
Keep those O.T. cards and letters coming. His administration
changed with the New Covenant. None of the passages
above invision spiritual "judgment" nor do they have anything
to do with New Covenant times.
The first spea
In a message dated 4/14/2005 10:53:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How could a loving God use such harsh terns? So go ahead tone it down for him! PS 78 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.
C
This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the
article which follows.
To view this item online, visit
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43799
Friday,
April 15, 2005
Judicial voodoo vs. the cross
Posted: Ap
J
It's not proper gardening weather up here for a while yet
(thank God!).
Debbie
I am tempted to say that the other reason they
didn't was all that they knew of the enormousness of your love for them, but I
know that's not necessarily true in all cases. People do say No, even
to the most loving parents, even to the most loving God.
Glad you can continue to rejoice in yo
-
John, you are not alone.
Terry
--- Begin Message ---
.ITS
FRIDAYHAVE A GREAT
WEEKEND...
Typoglycemia Don't delete this
because it looks weird. Believe it or not you can
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Debbie Sawczak
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:13
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth
Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen
Izzy wrote: There is much truth that can
be
Have no doubt that if my one of my sons
had become a drug addict and made life impossible at home he would have been
out on his ear, and not welcome back unless/until he truly repented—and they
knew that, too. That’s probably one reason why they didn’t. Izzy
PS I draw the line at splitti
You mean we have to use hermeneutics even to
properly understand our transparent peer, Caroline, who lives in our very own
culture and time and writes in our very own language?? Drag! :-)
Hey, speaking of hermeneutics, what is all this
Bulk Bulk Bulk in the subject lines? Is this because pe
JT wrote: If I were a betting person I would wager that
Pascal's faith was the dead kind
Good thing you're not.
Debbie
Izzy wrote: There is much truth that can be
extracted from other [insert: readings of the Bible] if one is not
fearful of their misunderstanding of [insert:
anything].
And this is a cool thing too. As for your other message
about not needing to pity people with other views of God, you are
JT wrote: When I look at his picture I see a wounded
boy but since the Lord doesn't break a bruised reed or
quench burning flax there is hope for him -
This is about the coolest thing you have written, Judy.
Debbie
Izzy, I bet you were a marvellous parent. That's
because (as I imagine it) your discipline always presupposed the
continuation of the relationship, and your kids knew it without doubt. You never
said, "Now you're not my son anymore till you say Sorry and do the chores like I
told you." Right
J
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:32
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth
Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen
IZZY it is NOT very LOVING of you to rip
out
IZZY it is NOT very LOVING of you to rip out that Mint!
How could you?ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The blue collar working class in me loves to keep busy at homemaking and gardening. Thats when I am the undoubtedly the happiest. Perhaps thats because while my body is engaged
I was also thinking while gardening this
morning about the “God is Love” argument going on here on
TT. One side says God is LOVE to the exclusion of anything
else. The other side says God is definitely LOVE, but not Exclusively
Love. Both sides argue about what a Father is like—isn’t he
If you really have done #1, then #2 will
become clear to you. J Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:52
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] Re [Truth Talk] Saved -- Salv
The “blue collar
working class” in me loves to keep busy at homemaking and gardening.
That’s when I am the undoubtedly the happiest. Perhaps that’s
because while my body is engaged in work my mind is free to do some of its best
thinking. The Holy Spirit is free to whisper lessons in my sp
It's not a matter of betting or "wagering" on
whether God exists or whether he doesn't Caroline because He has given
us
His Word who tells us who He is and what He requires
from us and who makes it possible for us to
learn His ways. If I were a betting person I would
wager that Pascal's fa
Watch out for the players and the greek game, don't get taken!
Gotta go time for lunch I think I'll have a HANGAburgerJudy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks so much for posting this test Kevin; it is really interesting and as our 2yr old grandson (who is coming here today) says "I wi
Just shows it is NOT Hidden in the Greek!Caroline Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So, dear Kevin, why the flip flop between agape and phileo? Did the Spirit have a message He wants us to get? Did He give someone the key to the code?
Love,
Caroline
- Original Message -
From: Kevin De
Essential # 1: Repent! -- Okay, we've all done
that. What is Essential # 2?
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:44
AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Re
[Truth Talk] Saved -- Salvat
Bill, you’ve gotten the cart ahead
of the horse, much like Simon the Magician. The first thing to do is “Repent,
for the Kingdom
of God is at hand.”
The Holy Spirit cannot enter any other way. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Se
So go out and live like the devil a loving God will understand and wink at it!Caroline Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pascal's wager: "If God exists, He will reward belief in Him: while if He does not exist, such belief leads to no harm. Hence the best bet is to believe in Him."
A challenge:
Hi kids! Can we all say the word hermeneutics? She
has never come close to suggesting a one-dimensional God. Yikes! Who (whom?)
have you been reading?.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 15, 2005 11:30
Subject: [Bulk
Shall we put it up for a vote, Lance? I
do not intend to hurt Caroline’s feelings, as she is tender hearted, and
I value her opinions greatly. However, I do not wish for her (or anyone else) to
think that we need to be pitied who comprehend God as something more than a
one-dimensional Bei
I DO NOT think that being intelligent ENTITLES one
to be condescending. If you 'read' that either into or out of my post then, you
misread it. She (Caroline) IS NOT condescending therefore, you 'caught'
something that wasn't 'thrown'.
Now, when it comes to me.well mea
culpa
-
And what are those essentials, Izzy, that we might
ALL receive the indwelling Spirit and agree on them?
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:40
AM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Re
[Tr
I never said that Caroline is not
intelligent; obviously she is, and I appreciate that plus her sweet
transparency. But you seem to think that being “intelligent”
entitles one to be condescending. (Sometimes people who exalt intellectualism
get that mixed up.) You obviously don’t recogniz
Those of us who are “alive”
due to the indwelling Holy Spirit do not diverge on the essentials, DaveH. The
non-essentials are—well, non-essential. We can cheerfully disagree, and
it gives us something to think about other than the weather. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:
Caroline IS intelligent. Caroline IS NOT
condescending. Sometimes people get those two mixed up.
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 15, 2005 09:51
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth
Talk] Saved -- Salvation
I was interviewed (as part of promoting my
first book) on the PTL show shortly after the scandals hit and the compound had
been taken over by Jerry Falwell. I had never cared for the Bakers or
their empire, but found it interesting to spend the night there and see just
what all the controv
I see the yin-yang concept as an elementary
understanding of the balance of life that God has placed in the world—such
as between male/female, heavy/light, etc. There is much truth that can be
extracted from other non-Christian cultures if one is not fearful of their
misunderstanding of wh
DAVEH: Can two spiritually
alive people have divergent understandings of Scripture?
If not, which TTer is the one who is spiritually
alive, leaving the rest of us confused in our
understanding of Scripture?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
What you
don’t “apprehend”
Lance, is that
How could anyone look upon the Cross and
think that God is not LOVE? This does not exclude all of God’s
other characteristics, however. He is a many-faceted God, as we are
many-faceted creatures, capable of more than one personality trait. Your continued
assertions that those of us who co
DAVEH: You are tougher than this old tired Mormon boy!
Kevin Deegan wrote:
BTWGive me a hint, KevinHow do you have
so much time to post so much? Do you get by an a half hour sleep at
night??? :-\
The things of God are my passion. AND I am a geek. I won't tell
you that in the
Now Caroline why would you want to put God in a Church
History box? It's a good outline but there is always
more to the story. History is written by the
victor and constantly revised. There were other groups
who paid
dearly for holding to the truth of God's Word
through the fires of perse
And do the “doctrines of demons”
keep us from being saved? Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 6:29
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth
Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and th
Boy, you got that one right, Lance. So
what’s “zip” gonna do for you on Judgment Day? Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:39
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re:
[TruthTalk] Saved --
I’ve known mentally retarded
individuals who really loved Jesus, as well. Mental aptitude will never save
anyone—just a heart that has faith in Jesus, and an unrebellious spirit. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, April
What you don’t “apprehend”
Lance, is that those of us who are spiritually alive do NOT misunderstand
scripture. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk
Who are Damron and Capon Caroline? and how do we
know the life of Ashley Smith's kidnapper is different?
From what his brother said on TV he was raised in
Church but like many today learned no fear of God and was
living with a girl for years, she is the one he
raped. Ashley's boldness undoub
I wondered the same thing myself when
reading JD’s posts about a human father’s wrath being a picture of
God’s wrath. A human father should never have wrath against his
children. I’m sure JD would not be a father like that. Does
he, therefore, think that God has NO wrath (just “deep disa
That is really an interesting concept,
Caroline. I admit I’m unsure about it, but it does sound reasonable. Do
you operate in the warfare ministry? What are your experiences along these
lines? I’d be interested in input from other TT’ers. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto
For 1600 years after Jesus Christ rose to heaven,
people wrestled with the idea of salvation. At one time, we thought those who
recanted under duress were consigned to hell. Then at another time, we
believed that those who were baptised, can't sin and if they do, their
conversation was not r
Damron said it best when he said, "it's different
but different in a good way." When I look at his picture, I see a brother, a
disciple and one shaped by the Lord for his corner of the world. I pray that the
Lord will protect Jay, that He'll increase his territory and that He'll bless
the mi
Taoism is not just a word it's a philosophy of life and
if the friend keeps reading she will understand that
it is a philosophy that has nothing at all to do with
the Lord Jesus Christ because Taoism is a blending of
light and dark or good and evil - whereas God the Word
is ALL light. jt
O
Thanks so much for posting this test Kevin; it is
really interesting and as our 2yr old grandson (who is coming
here today) says "I wike it" jt
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:08
PM
Subject:
Caroline Wong wrote:
A Taiwanese friend was struggling in
a bible study where my pastor was explaining "The Word" as in "In the
beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God." She went home and looked the passage up in her Chinese bible and
the translation for
Pascal's wager: "If God exists, He will reward
belief in Him: while if He does not exist, such belief leads to no harm. Hence
the best bet is to believe in Him."
A challenge: A non-believer asked what if God turns
out to be like the Jaguar of the Aztec/Mayan people and was incredibly cruel
Caroline Wong wrote:
Right doctrine helps us live a godly
life but (in my theology) it has nothing to do with salvation.
=
Would you say it has anything to do with false teaching? Would
you say
How very very sad; the boy has no idea; from what I've
read both Bakker children are quite bitter about the way
their parents have been treated. Jim may have
been well meaning wanting Christians to have a nice theme park
and all and apparently he
was charismatic but his gift was not from Go
This tells us wonderful things about the grace of
God but, is a dreadful pronouncement on just who we are. This gracious God
embraces us through the cacaphony of our aberrant utterances concerning the very
nature of the One who embraces us. This is quite illogical.
- Original Message
So, dear Kevin, why the flip flop between agape and
phileo? Did the Spirit have a message He wants us to get? Did He give someone
the key to the code?
Love,
Caroline
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, April 15,
The differences between us have nothing whatsoever to
do with Dake Lance. All I am certain of at this point in
time is God and His Word. You OTOH mainly quote lines
from old movies along with your own personal observations about the
people on TT and what makes them tick. jt
On Fri, 15 Apr
A Taiwanese friend was struggling in a bible study
where my pastor was explaining "The Word" as in "In the beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." She went home and looked the
passage up in her Chinese bible and the translation for "The Word" is "Tao" and
she
Caroline Wong wrote:
All love, life and goodness in this
world comes from God. Jesus himself asked the rich young ruler why he
called Him good when only God is good.
The elder in charge of the prayer
ministry at our church came to a realization that our love is given to
us by
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:33:14 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tozer was a '20th century prophet'. I used to
hear him preach and, had a couple of conversations with him. Like us, his
understanding on some things altered with maturity.(He used to, as a 'babe' be
a Sco
Rolling Stone magazine Jay Bakker I dropped out of high school. I can barely write. I'm white trash. I wear leather bracelets and tattoos. But God has given me a gift to relate to people and see the common sense of the Bible.
'A lot of people think that being Christian is about not having a
Kevin, you are right again. It is the Holy Spirit
who helps us understand and we try to help each other out of the understanding
we receive. Some people have greater wisdom and knowledge and some are even
gifted with wisdom and knowledge. We impart what we know but we do not require
that the
Jt:Has it ever occurred to you that we have
something in common? We both write conveying a tone of utter certainty.However,
you support your certainties with a 'Dakien' theological underpinning while I
support mine with zip. Hmmm, I wonder which...?
- Original Message -
From:
Tozer was a '20th century prophet'. I used to hear
him preach and, had a couple of conversations with him. Like us, his
understanding on some things altered with maturity.(He used to, as a 'babe' be a
Scofield man, but put that behind him) and, he died at a relatively early age.
Who knows wh
April 15,
2005
God Is
Also Holy and Just
"Thou art of
purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity". - Habakkuk
1:13
A lot of people have talked about
the goodness of God and then gotten sentimental abut it and said, "God is too
good to punish anybody," and so t
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:24:38 -0400 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
The Assemblies' official teaching
(unless they have changed) is that someone who says they belong to Christ
can not have a demon.
JD responds: Something I personally believe, as
well.
Then b
Question What of being spiritually 'alive'
and, regularly misapprehending the meaning of Scripture? Each of us believes
this to be the case with some on TT some of the time (or much of the time). Do
you agree and, what's the deal there?
- Original Message -
From:
Kevi
Wonderful story! John Bunyan, virtually illiterate,
received a Bible as part of his dowry. From this issued his many profound and
helpful writings. There is a balance to be maintained here. Thanks,
Kevin.
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglo
80 matches
Mail list logo
