Bonhoeffer gives us the thought for the day: Words to this effect -- The historical God in Christ is always contemporary. [ Never provable but always believable. Able to move mountains with a grain of faith but unable to soften a harden heart is that be the will of man.] The i
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:42:54 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Here are a few examples of our differences
from former threads - lest you go off thinking that we poor uneducated folk
are just up against a brick wall because of the "enlightenment" - (not that I
expect
The TRIUNE GOD through the PERSON OF JESUS, the
Incarnate Israelite, the vicariously obedient eternal Son of the Father through
the power of the Spirit, WILL be uniformly apprehended.
I would never minimize the authority and role of Scripture but SCRIPTURE IS
ALWAYS SECONDARY TO HIM. When t
Lance Muir wrote:
The TRIUNE GOD through the PERSON OF
JESUS, the Incarnate Israelite, the vicariously obedient eternal Son of
the Father through the power of the Spirit, WILL be uniformly
apprehended.
I would never minimize the authority and role of Scripture but
SCRIPTURE IS
Jesus IS the Word. Neither is “secondary”
to the other; they are one and the same. iz
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never be un
I was kind a thinking along the lines of ME
jD -Original Message-From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:31:14 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit
DAVEH: Sur
He is eternally THE WORD. Scripture is not.'They'
are NOT one and the same. I trust that David Miller would give me an Amen on
that one? Yes/No David?
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DAVEH: O.yeah, how did I overlook the obvious!
Shall we put it to a vote?
:-)
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I was kind a thinking along the lines of ME
jD
DAVEH:
Surely you aren't suggesting that I am wrong,
Yes, Lance, I do believe you have. Thank you.
David M.
p.s. Before you get a big head, I have read in the Bible how a donkey spoke
infallibly.
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Izzy wrote:
> Jesus IS the Word. Neither is "secondary"
> to the other; they are one and the same.
Jesus is the Word but Jesus is not the TEXT. Scripture is a subset of the
Word. The script can be considered secondary to the Logos himself because
the world is not big enough to contain all the
I believe the written Word as scripture is just one form of THE WORD of God.
It cannot be brushed aside as less than that IMO. izzy
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Izzy wrote:
> I believe the written Word as scripture is just one form
> of THE WORD of God. It cannot be brushed aside as
> less than that IMO.
You make a good point here, but sometimes people so focus upon the script
itself that they do not properly obey the Lord. The Pharisees had a
tendenc
IMO this is only a problem for those who give more weight to one scripture
than to another. Obedience to the Lord and walking in love are not
contradictory actions; in fact you can't do one while ignoring the other
while walking in the counsel of scripture. Thus we shouldn't throw out the
baby OR
I read that also, David. Sadly, there is probably more of a resemblance
twixt me and the donkey than need be.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The TEXT will never be uniformily apprehended!!!
Ye
Being the SKEPTIC that you are;
How can you be so sure of yourself?
Have you apprehended the truth?
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The TRIUNE GOD through the PERSON OF JESUS, the Incarnate Israelite, the vicariously obedient eternal Son of the Father through the power of the Spirit, WI
First, the Bible contains the Word of God . Secondly, Jesus and the Bible are two very different things. Let's not make an idol of the Book. It is what it is -- but it is not something to be worshipped, Christ is.
JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Folks -- let's face it. There is a big difference between a talking donkey and an owner of a Christian talk forum. When the former spoke, it spoke without understanding. The process of thought was simply over-come. We typically call this a miracle. Now if David likens his infalli
"the Bible contains the Word of God "
Chapter & verse?
Since it "contains" the word of god it is probably hidden in there somewhere, so I will understand if you can't find the portion that teaches it only "contains" the word of God.
Makes it so much easier to enjoy your Beer & Cigars that way
With the donkey, God was speaking. With David, alas, it is just David.
That is a MIS-Translation!
A BETTER READING would be:
With the donkey, God was speaking. With JD, alas, it is just jd.
Snarling at other folks is not the best way of showing the superior quality of your own character.
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Can you separate God and His spoken Word?
And His incarnate Word? Or His written Word? His Words are part of Him. iz
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Chapter and verse??!! Com'on,deegan -- you have chapter and verse for an alternative opinion???
There are three sources of information in the scripture, as I see it: God (thus saith the Lord), man (the Psalms, for example) and Satan (thou shall not surely die). So, yes, the scriptu
What I am saying is this: David's argument is spurious, at best. The donkey did not speak anything!!! In reality, it was God who did the deed of course. The donkey proves nothing as relates to David's point. Now, because you can't handle the truth is of no concern to
Matthew told us about the Christ and God supervised this writing. Matthew's source of information was , first, oral reporting (the virgin birth) but [apparently] from first hand sources AND his own eye witness accounting. He may have used Mark's writing to help organize his gospel. Peter
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