Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Taylor
I thought perhaps a little separation was in order :>) - Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Taylor
cd: while I believe there was some "drifting" from the origional thoughts of Calvin-I find that the "TULIP" is from the teaching of Calvin. Calvin nowhere advocates a limited atonement. While I would agree that such could be construed as a logical outworking of his theology, the fact remains

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Taylor
cd: So what is the capital crime?Blasphemy? Better read Titus 1:9-13 Where we are instructed to silence the false teachers by sound doctrine and to rebuke them sharply-not kill them be show they are wrong. BT: Yes, this is what the bishop-led Church is to do. cd: Calvin said God gave him his auth

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread ttxpress
exactly how many of his acts are you directly aware of?   On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:47:09 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Enough of them.  jt   On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:22:06 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all of them, jt?  please address this question, too, as you

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
Enough of them.  jt   On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:22:06 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: all of them, jt?  please address this question, too, as you describe 'the record' for us   On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:47:59 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Calvin's acts as the spiri

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread ttxpress
all of them, jt?  please address this question, too, as you describe 'the record' for us   On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:47:59 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Calvin's acts as the spiritual head of the city of Geneva are on the record

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 11/29/2005 2:45:04 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore > > Dean, I have been spending too much time on e-mail and must back off. I > just want to make a few

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvin is just you and me in a different setting (Yes I know 'It may be you, Lance but...)IT IS YOU ALSO!!

2005-11-29 Thread Terry Clifton
Lance Muir wrote: Believers use and abuse power like everyone else. Anyone here ever do 'business' with a 'Christian'? Anyone ever take note of 'Christians' who hold public office? Anyone ever take note of deacons, elders, teachers, pastors, evangelists etc. We all err. SOMETIMES

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
I agree that I've been rescued from the miry clay a few times but can you explain how I am deceived by Calvin and Calvinism?  Also what hyperbole?  Calvin's acts as the spiritual head of the city of Geneva are on the record Proverbs 20:11 tells us that even a child is known by what he does.

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread David Miller
Dean, I have been spending too much time on e-mail and must back off. I just want to make a few comments. I am not a fan of Calvin. Please try to remember that. In the matter of Calvin and Servetus, I am on the side of Servetus in the sense that I do not support "thought police." In other w

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Lance Muir
Judy: You are deceived from time to time yourself. (Calvin being a case in point-at least in terms of your hyperbole) Yet are you able to discern correctly on other matters. What a thing to say to DaveH! IMO dearest Dave has a pretty good handle on TT in the 'deception department'..   -

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:12:37 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: How would you be able to discern truth DaveH when you are already deceived by the religion you were either born into or have chosen to follow? DAVEH:    It seems pretty obvious to me that at least one o

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread David Miller
DaveH wrote: > Either wayit leads me to believe truth is pretty > illusive on TT. Forgive me for harping on that theme, > but it has become pretty apparent recently that truth > really isn't the focus of TT. If anything, it seems to be > more a place to argue truth without real truth being >

[TruthTalk] Calvin is just you and me in a different setting (Yes I know 'It may be you, Lance but...)IT IS YOU ALSO!!

2005-11-29 Thread Lance Muir
Believers use and abuse power like everyone else. Anyone here ever do 'business' with a 'Christian'? Anyone ever take note of 'Christians' who hold public office? Anyone ever take note of deacons, elders, teachers, pastors, evangelists etc. We all err. SOMETIMES WE ERR IN CAPS.    

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Dean Moore
> [Original Message] > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 11/28/2005 5:27:44 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore > > cd wrote: > At one point,it is true,Calvin wanted Servetus beheaded. Beheading was > employed for c

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Lance Muir
Even a book about guns? - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 29, 2005 09:31 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore Here is the absolute truth.  Calvin was a si

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Dave Hansen
How would you be able to discern truth DaveH when you are already deceived by the religion you were either born into or have chosen to follow? DAVEH:    It seems pretty obvious to me that at least one of the positions put forth on TT about Calvin is wrong, Judy.  I don't quite see how both yo

RE: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread ShieldsFamily
And the good thing is that if we never figure out the “truth” about Calvin for sure, it won’t matter one whit.  Although it would be nice to know the truth about this piece of history, my walk with the Lord does not hinge upon what Calvin did/didn’t do one way or the other.  iz  

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Terry Clifton
Here is the absolute truth.  Calvin was a sinner, just like you , just like me.  God has all the facts and has treated him justly.  It is not something we need to worry about.  There are people who need loving and souls that need saving.  You cannot do either with your nose in a book. Terry ===

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:03:47 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:26:04 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH:   Thanx for your advice on this, DavidM...especially considering your time constraints.   Not that I want to open

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread knpraise
  -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:45:28 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore     On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:26:04 -0800

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

2005-11-29 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:26:04 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DAVEH:   Thanx for your advice on this, DavidM...especially considering your time constraints.   Not that I want to open another can of worms, but in light of my discussion (if it could be called that) with