Re: [TruthTalk] Is it wrong to insult a religion?

2006-02-27 Thread ttxpress
  women don't like discussin' their age, Bro   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:31:37 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> ..Christine.. had a  birthday early this month ..

[TruthTalk] An excellent Article on Islam Today

2006-02-27 Thread Christine Miller
http://www.davidwarrenonline.com/index.php?artID=576 This will be my 11th consecutive column, directly or indirectly on the “Danish cartoons” issue. The cartoons themselves were a red herring from the start -- a fake issue, trumped up by fanatical Muslims seeking grievances to abet a confr

[TruthTalk] Not Going to Criticize This?

2006-02-27 Thread Christine Miller
Just came across this article. I am curious as to whether it would be rude to criticize such behavior.Lance, I recognize that you are correct: criticizing Islam poses a serious risk, as we have seen from the rioting around the world in response to these cartoon wars. These riots show how dang

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
That, Judy, was not my meaning. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 13:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men Why Lance? You disagree just

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
Why Lance? You disagree just as much with Dean, DavidM, and with the Mormon boys, do you want us all to give you a wide berth?  This reminds me of the state of the backslidden and fallen away religious system Ppl acting like everything is wonderful on the surface, walking out of separate door

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Judy: As you and I have pretty much never 'clicked' on anything, would it be better for you and, for TT if we just gave one another's posts a wide birth? I'd respect that from my end if you wished it. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.o

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 10:06:42 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy, while it is helpful to look at differences, communication also requires looking at areas of agreement.  Surely there is something in what Lance says that you can find agreement with.  Isn't there?

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
  Hi David: I'm not ready to pronounce either sainthood or damnation on any soul living or dead since that authority has been given but not to me.  BTW the Psalms are worship songs - and these were a reality long before Calvin.   From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Lance wrote:>> Insofar

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
FWIW from myside Judy, I DO BELIEVE that one can do the 'genuflect thingy' and be filled with the Holy Spirit. IFO would not do the 'genuflect thingy' but, such is the diversity within the believing community as I see God at work. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
    Anyone who genuflects and kneels in front of a wafer in a monstrance calling it Jesus has never ever sought the Lord with their whole heart (independently) - for if they had He would have been found by them and they would gladly put away such nonsense Lance; this is the blind leading the

Re: [TruthTalk] ******Moderator comment***

2006-02-27 Thread ttxpress
  || you're welcome:)   - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 11:42:37 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is it wrong to insult a religion? In my teeny-bopper world, we speak in sent

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread David Miller
Judy, while it is helpful to look at differences, communication also requires looking at areas of agreement.  Surely there is something in what Lance says that you can find agreement with.  Isn't there?   For example, Lance says that the Lord is present in your gatherings.  True?   Lance sa

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread David Miller
FWIW, I think if Luther were here, he would be on Judy's side in condemning this behavior, even though Luther believed in transubstantiation. David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTal

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: >> Insofar as one can 'know who is accepted', >> I count Calvin and Luther among that number. >> It'd appear that DM does also. Judy wrote: > Then you and DM are the "authorities" and > your word is greater than God's Word and > His judgment? Judy, please show me in "God's Word" and

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
On whose terms Lance? I am being honest and up front, I am communicating where I am at. Your problem is that you can not accept what I write - so why cloak it in devious terms. Why not come right out and tel it like it is Lance?  God knows and after all He is the "important One" It is He w

Re: [TruthTalk] Is it wrong to insult a religion?

2006-02-27 Thread David Miller
Gary wrote to Christine: > in your teenybopper world ... You might like to know that Christine is not a teenager. She had a birthday early this month that forever put her teenage years behind her. :-) David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that yo

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
  Exactly who is helping them Lance? Surely you do not believe Jesus is the wafer in the glass center of this RC Monstrance?   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:04:42 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: He is, IMO, helping them. Lord help you, Judy! From: Judy Taylor   FW

Re: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
He is, IMO, helping them. Lord help you, Judy! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 08:47 Subject: [TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry FWIW in the Religion section of The Daily Break, Virginia Pilot ye

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
This, IMO, is NOT A DIALOGUE! This is a MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE MONOLOGUE. This, Judy, is why I posted that sound bite from 'Cool Hand Luke', 'what we have here is a failure to communicate'. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: Trut

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:46:10 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 1. The 'way you see it' Judy, is false.   Says who and upon what basis? Heresy according to the "Church Fathers"?   2. Insofar as one can 'know who is accepted', I count Calvin and Luther among th

[TruthTalk] Blatant Idolatry

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
FWIW in the Religion section of The Daily Break, Virginia Pilot yesterday there was a photo taken by Delores Johnson, staff photographer of young parishoners at St. Luke Catholic Church in VaBch on their knees paying "homage to the host" during prayer and "adoration"   Do you know what the "h

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
1. The 'way you see it' Judy, is false. 2. Insofar as one can 'know who is accepted', I count Calvin and Luther among that number. It'd appear that DM does also. 3. I don't 'defend' the RCC, Judy. God's Spirit is present with the believers among them as He is with the believers in DM's gath

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
The way I see it Lance, you and those you follow have been making your own saints. How do you know who is accepted and who is rejected before Jesus actually separates the sheep from the goats?  Neither Luther nor Calvin are saints according to the RCC (which you also defend).  The way God tel

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
'Personalizing'? You may wish to employ another term in order to make your point, Judy. As there is an element of the author even in scripture so there is an element of one's self in everything one writes/speaks. Both you and Dean have, IMO, taken to slandering many of the great saints of ch

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
For me Lance, exactly means exactly and truth means truth; no yours or mine about it. Personalizing everything as you do leads to gross deception.    On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:35:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: May 'exactly' and your 'exactly' may not convey the same mean

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
May 'exactly' and your 'exactly' may not convey the same meaning, Judy. This is, after all, what TT is about, is it not? My 'exactly' is, of course, God's 'exactly'. Once that is understood we can move on. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglo

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
Has Canada had a tsnuami?  Is this a new Lance or what?   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:17:38 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Exactly! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Exactly! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 27, 2006 07:12 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men Walking in as much light as one has been given so far

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Judy Taylor
Walking in as much light as one has been given so far is not the same as what you have been promoting Nor is it saying that ppl who have chosen darkness are walking in light. It has to be one or the other because there is no concord between Christ and Belial.   On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 06:10:27 -

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance I've had a couple of years to read DM, Dean. I've also had some time to read you, Dean. Based upon the content, I've made my choice. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Feb

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Dean Moore
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance       - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:29 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance No. See DM on this.   cd: Why would Ron Mcrae's teaching by questioned by y

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-ModeratorComment***************

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
There is a point, Dean, to my extending this 'giving offence' business. Have you ever heard the _expression_ of a family member 'he/she's blood'. When you touch blood you touch me. Theoretically, are not fellow believer's, alive or dead,  'blood'? - Original Message - From: D

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-ModeratorComment***************

2006-02-27 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/27/2006 6:01:02 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] *** To all list members-ModeratorComment*** How about one's wife, Dean? cd: Good point Lance.I consider one's wife the same as one's f

Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Exactly! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 14:47 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Truth or the Opinions of Men I was in too much of a hurry; I meant to say I do di

[TruthTalk] ******Moderator comment***

2006-02-27 Thread Dean Moore
 Gary, This is getting into the area of a personal attack on Christine (ie.teeny bopper world)-try respect -it works.     - Original Message - From: Christine Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/26/2006 11:42:37 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is it wrong to insult a religion

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance Belief/life; life/belief...Does error in either necessarily lead to error in the other. If so then, even the 'mature' believer is in 'sin' (read error) - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.

Re: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance No, Dean. I shall attempt to factor in that which is deemed an 'insult' and that which is not.It'd appear that the theology of the 'deep south' has influenced both yourself and Judy in ways that you know not of.  - Original Message -

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Fw: Continuing repentance No. See DM on this. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 18:22 Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Continuing repentance       - Orig

Re: [TruthTalk] *********** To all list members-ModeratorComment***************

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
How about one's wife, Dean? - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 26, 2006 18:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] *** To all list members-ModeratorComment***       - Original Me

Re: [TruthTalk] Is it wrong to insult a religion?

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Muir
Hello Christine:I'd characterize the 'cartoon incident' as much ado about something. I seem to recall our moderator taking exception to a similarly moderate incident whereafter he actually said he'd 'show up a somebody's door'. He apparently meant it.   I do not see either Dean or your dad as