DAVEH:
> Do you consider the magi following the Star
> of Bethlehem to be a form of astrology?
Yes, and so the story of their visit to Christ to pay homage is powerful,
because it shows that Christ is Lord over the occult of the Gentiles, even
as an infant.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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is any one here a
'disciple of JC'
how so?
while to the
writer, below, astrology is allegedly 'evil' it makes one curious
about what the writer contrasts as 'good' mysticism(?)
is it astronomy
(that's ok for 'disciples of Christ')?
wouldn't
t/his distinction entail excusing the
DAVEH: Do you consider the magi following the Star of Bethlehem to be
a form of astrology?
David Miller wrote:
DAVEH:
Do you find or acknowledge an element of mysticism
in your religious beliefs, DavidM?
Oh yes, but there are forms of mysticism that I believe are off l
DAVEH:
> Do you find or acknowledge an element of mysticism
> in your religious beliefs, DavidM?
Oh yes, but there are forms of mysticism that I believe are off limits for
disciples of Christ. Astrology is one of them. The reason for it being
off limits is not because there is nothing to it.
DAVEH: Do you find or acknowledge an element of mysticism in your
religious beliefs, DavidM?
Thank you DaveH and
Blaine for sharing about astrology and mysticism in relation to
Mormonism. I found both your comments interesting to read.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
In a message dated 5/26/2005 8:19:42 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTWI must warn you to exercise extreme caution
when wearing our leathers near ladies other than your wife, as they are often
strongly attracted to the animal magnetism of leather covered cad
David:What's your sign?
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Thank you DaveH and Blaine for
sh
Thank you DaveH and Blaine for sharing
about astrology and mysticism in relation to Mormonism. I found both your
comments interesting to read.
Peace be with you.David
Miller.
Blaine: I first got onto astrology in, I believe 1969, when a
co-teacher I worked with taught me a lot of different things, mostly related to
teaching, but one side benefit was astrology. He was a descendant of Mark
Twain (Samuel Clemens), famous author, and was just about as colorful as
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Terry if you
follow Dave’s advice
you will need rubbers; not leathers. Better keep your Bride at your
side
instead. Iz
I intend to.
Couldn't do without her.
: [TruthTalk] Dave uses
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DAVEH: Passing is for young football
players, and race car drivers, Terry. I don't think you qualify in either
instance. Listen Terry, don't you realize that the older you get, the
worse your eyesight will become.
DAVEH: Passing is for young football players, and race car drivers,
Terry. I don't think you qualify in either instance. Listen Terry,
don't you realize that the older you get, the worse your eyesight will
become. Just let those giggling scantily clad young ladies read the
mic for you! Yo
The price seems modest,Dave, and I appreciate your offer, but I find it
distracting to have to fight off scantily clad young ladies while
trying to read a micrometer. Afraid I will have to pass.
Terry
==
Dave Hansen wrote:
And don’t forget the magical
protective mormon underwear, Terry! Iz
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Behalf Of Dave Hansen
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DAVEH: Have you never heard the cliche...to make big bucks,
you need to spend big bucks? Perhaps your fortunes would change
if you were properly attired, Terry. Think of how attractive you will
be to your (especially female) customers if you wear a leather pair of
trousers and perhaps
I am still waiting for the ones with big bucks to show up.
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: Andthose who spend the big bucks with you, bless you the
most! :-$
Terry Clifton wrote:
Everyone
who comes to my shop is a blessing.. Some bl
David Miller wrote:
Blaine wrote:
... it came through to me that she was one of my
immediate ancestors, a woman born in Norway,
who had been active in converting her husband and
family to Mormonism, and that she was there to show
her approval of what we were in process of doing.
DAVEH: Andthose who spend the big bucks with you, bless you the
most! :-$
Terry Clifton wrote:
Everyone
who comes to my shop is a blessing.. Some bless me by coming
in. Others bless me by leaving.
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.langlitz.c
J
==
Everyone who comes to my
shop is a blessing.. Some bless me by coming in. Others bless me by
leaving.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
She had no idea just how happy she was until she left. It's kind of
like you and me. I am older than you, so I will probably die before
you (God forbid). At that time -- you may discover just what a
blessing I was in your life.
JD
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amily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:12:24 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
If she was so happy why is she the ex? Waiting as The World Turns. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PR
Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
Would this include my previously happy ex wife?
JD
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Would this include my previously happy ex wife?
JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:41:18 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
So you believe
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In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:15:18 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Pe
So you believe angels are departed human
beings? Izzy
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Blaine wrote:
> ... it came through to me that she was one of my
> immediate ancestors, a woman born in Norway,
> who had been active in converting her husband and
> family to Mormonism, and that she was there to show
> her approval of what we were in process of doing.
Blaine, I appreciate you sha
Do you know of any Biblical passage that says God does not have a body?
I think it is very clear:
JN 4:24 God is a spirit
Lu 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
1) A spirit has no Flesh & Bone Lu
Kevin wrote:
> I fail to see what your example of Angels has
> to do with God having a body, anymore than
> using an amoeba as an example.If angels have bodies, and
angels are invisible, then the Biblical statement that God is invisible says
nothing about whether or not he has a body. Do yo
I thought it very funny too. I did not know you had a sense of rumor, I mean humor Blaine.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 5/24/2005 9:35:56 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine, I drank some punch like that one itme ;-)
Very funny. _
I have no idea why you would bring up an amoeba.
My point exactly.
I fail to see what your example of Angels has to do with God having a body, anymore than using an amoeba as an example.David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin wrote:> The amoeba has a body but what bearing does> that have on
In a message dated 5/24/2005 9:35:56 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine,
I drank some punch like that one itme ;-)
Very funny.
Blaine, I drank some punch like that one itme ;-)
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:18:43 EDT
In a message dated 5/23/2005
In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:15:18 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Perhaps.Heb 13:1ShieldsFamily
wrote:>Has anyone on TT actually seen an angel?
Izzy
BLAINE: I have been very very busy lately, so have not even been
reading most of the posts. So
Kevin wrote:
> The amoeba has a body but what bearing does
> that have on whether God has a body or not?
I have no idea why you would bring up an amoeba. My line of reasoning is
that if we know of anybody (e.g., Jesus and angels) who might be invisible
and yet also have a body at the same time,
Cool
JD
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Okay, we'll also post photos of crea
Thank you Izzy and Lance, I was certainly grateful and
the thankful heart continues ... If there had been
an accident it would have been my fault because I was
on the wrong side. What an example of God's
mercy and faithfulness - and how encouraging. I
forget about angels until something li
Amen Judy! May God always have His angels keep
watch over you.
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DAVEH:Perhaps.Heb 13:1
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Has anyone on TT actually seen an angel? Izzy
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Okay, we'll also post photos of creatures from the other end of the spectrum as needed. :-)
Kevin: (clue) Amoeba's don't "disappear". :-)
Izzy
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I haven't seen one but an sure one kept me out of a
head on collision on my way to church
yesterday. I was a bit distracted as we have a
houseful of active and noisy children, was on
my own and fiddling with the cell phone connection on
our
ratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
You keep pressuring me for a picture. I am working on it.
JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon,
23 May 2005 10:56:51 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic
The Bible seems to speak of every person having a guardian angel, yet we don't see angels as often as we see people. Wouldn't invisibility be the likely explanation for that? Don't you think angels have bodies?
The amoeba has a body but what bearing does that have on whether God has a body or n
I haven't seen one but an sure one kept me out of a
head on collision on my way to church
yesterday. I was a bit distracted as we have a
houseful of active and noisy children, was on
my own and fiddling with the cell phone connection on
our road which is country and most of
the time not a l
You keep pressuring me for a picture. I am working on it.
JD -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:56:51 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
Has
David Miller wrote:
What do you think about angels around us? Sometimes they become visible,
but don't you think of angels as being in a dimension which is invisible to
us?
=
I am more visable at some times than I am at others
Has anyone on TT actually seen an angel? Izzy
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Kevin wrote:
> Just like on ressurection morning he "vanished" from
> the Tomb talked to some and made a bee line to heaven
> and back all while the Jerusalem Grille was still serving
> breakfast! How far is it to heaven and back? How fast
> was He travelling? Going to heaven and back in maybe
> an
up in faith. Furthermore, I feel so old and tired, I don't have much gumption to fight younger guys like you and Kevin. If
you want to rule the sandbox...be my guest. I'll go find my own sandbox and take a nap. :-)
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: T
DAVEH:I certainly don't have all the answers to each and every question
you or Kevin might pose...
Finally, reasonable answer.
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlo
andbox...be my guest.
I'll go find my own sandbox and take a nap. :-)
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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DAVEH: LOL..Thanx Terry---that's what I was afraid of!
Terry Clifton wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: You're finally getting pretty close to the truth, Kevin. I see
little reason to be fodder for your cannon. You and Perry seem to have
your own agenda. That's OK by me,
myth (weak,
defective logic; not biblically meaningful)
On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:56:48 -0400 "David Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:"he vanished out of their sight.".. immediately Jesus became
invisible.,
the glory of the Father is
invisibility
Besides, some of us eat kosher only. Izzy
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Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: You're finally getting pretty close to the truth, Kevin. I see
little reason to be fodder for your cannon. You and Perry seem to have
your own agenda. That's OK by me, but it bewilders me why you would
think I would want to be in the center ring of your circus.
out my motives is a red herring.Perry>From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine >on TT>Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:59:35 -0700>>
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:59:35 -0700
DAVEH: I've got no problem answering somebody who really wants to know,
Perry. I just question your motives. Why do you want to know? It seems
obvious that you don
Ruben wanted the Bar B Q
You are not BORED just without an answer!Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: You're finally getting pretty close to the truth, Kevin. I see little reason to be fodder for your cannon. You and Perry seem to have your own agenda. That's OK by me, but it bewild
I was considering the phrase, "he vanished out of their sight." They were looking at him one moment, recognized that this was Jesus Christ their Lord and Savior, and immediately Jesus became invisible. He vanished.
The Road Runner vanishes out of the sight of Wiley Coyote too, is he invisible?
DAVEH: You're finally getting pretty close to the truth, Kevin. I see
little reason to be fodder for your cannon. You and Perry seem to have
your own agenda. That's OK by me, but it bewilders me why you would
think I would want to be in the center ring of your circus. If you
intend to barb
HELLO Dave look below I answered every single question, in the previous post that you sent there they are.
Is it your intention to entrap me? Orhumiliate me? Ordenigrate that which I believe?MY ANSWER My intention is to get an answer so for the FIFTH(scratch that - SIXTH) time
**
I know you just see no reason to reply to the questions, and besides Perry will scold you, and then Golly Gee there will be another and another and maybe even a third!Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: Yaawn.Kevin Deegan wrote:
OK Dave we can all see, your getting more
David Miller wrote:
>> I was thinking of later on when he broke
>> bread with them.
>> Luke 24:31
>> (31) And their eyes were opened, and they
>> knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
>>
>> The Greek word here is aphantos, which means,
>> without visibility. It is a negative of the word use
DAVEH: For a guy who seems to have all the answers, why do you feel
the need to ask another question, Kevin? I asked you the 3 below
questions and you just ignored them. Then why would you be surprised
that I simply ignore your questions?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Is it your intention to entr
DAVEH: Yaawn.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
OK Dave we can all see, your getting more & more
transparent, we will just add these questions to the "Can NOT" &
"WILL NOT" answer list
It is uncomfortable out of water Flip, Flop, wiggle and
squirm.
Dave Hansen <[
If I answer your below question, you will merely ask another, and perhaps another
WOW you just hit on why we are on TT! What a revelation. And you did this without a "prophet" Please people no more questions for DH, the thought of two or three more is overwhelming him.
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTE
OK Dave we can all see, your getting more & more transparent, we will just add these questions to the "Can NOT" & "WILL NOT" answer list
It is uncomfortable out of water Flip, Flop, wiggle and squirm.
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: I've got no problem answering somebody w
Is it your intention to entrap me? Orhumiliate me? Ordenigrate that which I believe?My intention is to get an answer so for the FIFTH time
*
Did you answer this?
Can you tell me why the lectures taught there are ONLY 2 Personages in the Godhe
DAVEH: I've got no problem answering somebody who really wants to
know, Perry. I just question your motives. Why do you want to know?
It seems obvious that you don't particularly care to know what I
believe, since you think my beliefs are in error and have proclaimed
your desire to prove it
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:15:03 -0700
DAVEH: Another leading question, Perry? Do you intend to criticize me
again for answering your question
DAVEH: Does it really bother you to think that my intention for coming
to TT is not to preach/teach Mormonism, Kevin? You've certainly been
teaching a lot of it lately. Yet when you ask a question, I do not
detect sincerity in your quest for knowing what I believe. Am I
wrong? Do you real
DAVEH: Another leading question, Perry? Do you intend to criticize me
again for answering your question???
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
If you believe jesus was a god before he became a man, as you
stated, and you are his brother, then were you a god before you became
a a man?
Perry
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Then comes the damage control at the homefront:
http://www.desnews.com/confer/97fall/talks/op0vzq7q.htm
The media have been kind and generous to us. This past year of pioneer celebrations has resulted in very extensive, favorable press coverage. There have been a few things we wish might have bee
DaveH maybe you better get a hold of Hinckley, he is not sure about LDS theology!
Don Lattin (religion editor, interviewing Gordon B. Hinckley, San Francisco Chronicle, April 13, 1997, p 3/Z1)
Q: There are some significant differences in your beliefs [and other Christian churches]. For instance, d
Perry just wants you to admit it. When I arrived you guys were passing a lot of LDS Theology, cloaked in christian terms, undiscovered by TT members and that is how you like it. Gentiles are not ready for the meat of Mormonism are they?
Feel like you are sucker punched? maybe God is trying to get
DAVEH: Do you really want me to teach LDS theology on TT, Kevin?
If I did that, would not Perry feel more compelled to criticize???
Sometimes I feel like you two work as a tag team. One of you stands me
upright and diverts my attention while the other sucker punches me!
:-)
BT
And their eyes were opened
The plain understanding is that they were beholden from "know"ing who he was not that he was present and visible or invisible.David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin wrote:> Is that a compliment or a slam?Compliment.David Miller wrote:>> Remember when Stephen saw he
Kevin wrote:
> Is that a compliment or a slam?
Compliment.
David Miller wrote:
>> Remember when Stephen saw heaven opened up, he
>> saw the Father and the Son at the right hand of the
>> Father, but he did not see a third person.
Kevin wrote:
> So when David described being under the feathers
>
By the way, Tertullian was a guy kind of like you. He slashed and dashed those he disagreed with, making them look quite foolish when he finished his arguments.
Is that a compliment or a slam? OR are you saying he was a Baptist/Militant Fundamentalist?
Remember when Stephen saw heaven opened up, he
Can you tell me why the lectures taught there are ONLY 2 Personages in the Godhead?
Why God is a personage of SPIRIT not a tabernacle or BODY?
Thanks Dave.Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: I've answered this before, Kevin. I'm not sure why you persist in asking again, but the answer
I do not see how this squares with LDS Theology. The purpose of this Mortal life is to progress to become a god. Yet here we have a god who became a man, not a man who became a god?
Who else skiped this required probation or learning experience?
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: I've a
] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:04:05 -0700
DAVEH: I've answered this before, Kevin. I'm not sure why you persist in
asking again, but the answer remains the same.yes. I assume you agree?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
*So was Jesus a god
Kevin wrote:
> What biblical support do you have, for this?
Plenty, but not a lot of time right now to lay it out for you.
Kevin wrote:
> Is this orthodox belief?
> Any historical/Church father support?
With the exception of Tertullian, most church fathers did not accept the
idea of God having
DAVEH: I've answered this before, Kevin. I'm not sure why you persist
in asking again, but the answer remains the same.yes. I assume you
agree?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
So was Jesus a god before he became a man or not?
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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DAVEH: Thanx for the explanation of the SM of teaching.
Argh...I can't believe I used a double word in my below
comment of the SM method!
I also believe the body is a very important element of our
existence. You mentioned God's body being different from ourI
agree. Fro
What biblical support do you have, for this?
Is this orthodox belief? Any historical/Church father support?
Does the Holy Spirit have a body?
Since God is invisible can you see his invisible body?
God does have a body His name is Jesus the "image of the invisible God"David Miller <[EMAIL PROTE
ED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:32:37 -0700 DAVEH: Golly, PerryWhen asked a question, I try (time allowing) to answer it. Are you surpr
DH says If he is invisible to you now, what do you suppose he will look like when you do see him?
JN 14 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
When
DAVEH wrote:
> I've not heard of the SM method of teaching
The Socratic Method is where the teacher asks questions to cause the pupil
to discover the answer for himself rather than lecture him with declarative
statements. Sometimes the questions are such that they cause the pupil to
realiz
mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS
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Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:32:37 -0700
DAVEH: Golly, PerryWhen asked a question, I try (time allowing) to
answer it. Are you surprised t
DAVEH: AhHe was a spirit in the past. I assume you
believe he now is a spirit clothed in a physical bodyis that
correct, Kevin? If he is invisible to you now, what do you suppose he
will look like when you do see him? You do anticipate seeing him,
don't you Kevin???
I just wonder about that. Please examine what
your motives are and what you are doing and OWN it.
(Gee, that road sure is familiar!)
Perry
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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To me it is pretty obvious that God has the form of a man
Man fell and lost the image of God, the image is not in the form of a man. it is in being a rational, emotional being, that knows right from wrong.
Matthew Henry Commentary"Man was not made in the likeness of any creature that went before h
Gods revelation of Himself is complete in Jesus
JN 14:8-9 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Sh
If you don't agree with me, please tell me what you think God looks like Perry???
God is a spirit
God is invisible.Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DAVEH: Golly, PerryWhen asked a question, I try (time allowing) to answer it. Are you surprised that I would give an answer that is congr
DAVEH: Golly, PerryWhen asked a question, I try (time allowing) to
answer it. Are you surprised that I would give an answer that is
congruent with my LDS rooted beliefs?I've not heard of the SM method
of teachingBut, is the way I answer the questions a problem for you,
Perry. It
very interesting,
CP
g :: tt moderator
On Wed, 18 May 2005 07:41:49 -0700 "Charles Perry
Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:> Dave, you say you are not here to teach LDS doctrine, but that
is > exactly what you are doing..
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LDS have been teaching LDS doctrine eversince I have been here.
The only thing is it has been cloaked in christian terminology for consumption of the unsuspecting. Seems some may have bought it for a while. Why would one need to hide things? Maybe they are sacred. LDS seem to equate sacred & secret
Dave, you say you are not here to teach LDS doctrine, but that is exactly
what you are doing. You may not be aware of the "Socratic Method" of
teaching, but you are using it to teach LDS doctrine. Now, as far as I am
concerned, it is your right to try to teach whatever you think is the truth
us
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