RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Hi Tom, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Tom Herbert > Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 00:43 > À : Joe Touch > Cc : tsv-area@ietf.org; Internet Area > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the dep

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Hi Joe, Please see inline. Cheers, Med De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Joe Touch Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 01:12 À : Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv-area@ietf.org Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP On 7/18/2017 4:0

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Hi Erik, That's the intuitive approach to follow but unfortunately the situation is not that obvious to get into. Network providers do not have a control on the servers and the terminals that are enabled by customers behind the CPE. So making use of MPTCP to grab more resources (when availabl

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 17:45 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > Cc : Joe Touch; tsv-area@ietf.org; Internet Area > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deploym

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Joe, As mentioned in a previous message in this thread, TCP-AO extensions (6978) to pass NATs will be required otherwise TCP-AO will fail because of: -Manipulating multiple addresses -At least one of the source IP addresses will be rewritten. The proxy design does not induce a new issu

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 18:36 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Erik Kline > Cc : Tom Herbert; Internet Area; tsv-area@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the dep

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Re-, I don't understand your argument here, especially because you are the one who proposed me the following (check mptcp archives, April 20, 2017) which we endorsed in the latest version of the specification: "If that were the case, you'd simply be defining a new application service and aski

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Hi Joe, The text can always be worked out. This is not an IETF LC :) The main point is that we are following your suggestion to define the solution as an application proxy using a dedicated port number. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Envoy

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Int-area [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Joe Touch > Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 21:58 > À : Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv-area@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deplo

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2017 16:37 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv- > a...@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment o

RE: [Int-area] Middleboxes to aid the deployment of MPTCP

Good suggestion, Tom. Thanks. Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com] > Envoyé : jeudi 20 juillet 2017 17:39 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN > Cc : Joe Touch; Olivier Bonaventure; Internet Area; tsv-area@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [Int-area] Middleb