Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-06-03 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 07:39:29AM +, Eggert, Lars wrote: On 2015-6-3, at 07:46, Toerless Eckert eck...@cisco.com wrote: I do think missing employer is holding back some *qualified* candidates, but i am not sure how many of them would really be available if money was no matter. A lot

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-06-02 Thread John Leslie
Joe Touch to...@isi.edu wrote: On 6/1/2015 10:44 PM, Martin Stiemerling wrote: The current text aims at keeping the balance between naming a number of must haves, but is deliberately not going into more details. Is there a good term that would cover most of the points, i.e., the text says

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-06-02 Thread Joe Touch
On 6/2/2015 1:48 PM, John Leslie wrote: ... I truly worry that expecting all that will be too severe a limit on available candidates. We should list the set of things we expect expertise in AND clearly indicate that we're looking for good overlap but not necessarily complete coverage.

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-06-02 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 05:54:19PM -0700, Joe Touch wrote: You do realize, I presume, that the largest factor in determining who is available as a *candidate* for AD is financial support by their employer? I think the biggest limiting factors for available candidates are willingness to do the

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-06-02 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, Martin, On 6/1/2015 10:44 PM, Martin Stiemerling wrote: Hi Joe, Am 29.05.15 um 20:11 schrieb Joe Touch: Hi, all, I don't disagree with anything in the text, but it seems to omit a few key areas that I think are also aspects of transports besides flow/congestion control-ish. These

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-06-01 Thread Martin Stiemerling
Hi David, Am 31.05.15 um 01:09 schrieb Black, David: DiffServ is definitely still relevant, as there's current DiffServ-related work. Suggested rephrasing: QoS (including Differentiated Services and reservation signaling), and congestion control for unresponsive flows. Thanks for the

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-06-01 Thread Martin Stiemerling
Hi Joe, Am 29.05.15 um 20:11 schrieb Joe Touch: Hi, all, I don't disagree with anything in the text, but it seems to omit a few key areas that I think are also aspects of transports besides flow/congestion control-ish. These might also be listed among the topics/examples: -

RE: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-30 Thread Black, David
Message- From: tsv-area [mailto:tsv-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joe Touch Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:42 PM To: John Leslie Cc: tsv-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle) IMO, these are as critical to many transport discussions

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-30 Thread Lixia Zhang
top posting: 1/ I agree with John that we need to make it possible for nomcom to find technically qualified transport candidate 2/ I must also agree with Linda regarding how complex today’s network system has become, which raised the expertise requirement bar — would the picture getting even

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-29 Thread Eggert, Lars
Looks spot on On 2015-5-29, at 07:42, Martin Stiemerling mls.i...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Spencer and I have finished editing the draft text for the desired expertise for the TSV AD in the NOMCOM 2015 cycle. This is currently under discussion in the IESG and not yet the final text

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-29 Thread John Leslie
Linda Dunbar linda.dun...@huawei.com wrote: Today's network is layers of layers of overlay (multiple layers of encapsulation). A communication between two end points traverses multiple administrative domains. Quite true. The TSV-Area AD should have the knowledge of BGP, the domain

RE: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-29 Thread Linda Dunbar
-Original Message- From: tsv-area [mailto:tsv-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joe Touch Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:42 PM To: John Leslie Cc: tsv-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle) IMO, these are as critical to many transport discussions

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-29 Thread John Leslie
Joe Touch to...@isi.edu wrote: I don't disagree with anything in the text, but it seems to omit a few key areas that I think are also aspects of transports besides flow/congestion control-ish. These might also be listed among the topics/examples: - segmentation, MTU, and message

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-29 Thread Joe Touch
IMO, these are as critical to many transport discussions as knowledge of congestion control. Joe On 5/29/2015 1:38 PM, John Leslie wrote: Joe Touch to...@isi.edu wrote: I don't disagree with anything in the text, but it seems to omit a few key areas that I think are also aspects of

Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-29 Thread Joe Touch
of a case where this has been useful? Joe -Original Message- From: tsv-area [mailto:tsv-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joe Touch Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:42 PM To: John Leslie Cc: tsv-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle) IMO

FYI draft text desired expertise TSV AD (NOMCOM 2015 cycle)

2015-05-28 Thread Martin Stiemerling
Dear all, Spencer and I have finished editing the draft text for the desired expertise for the TSV AD in the NOMCOM 2015 cycle. This is currently under discussion in the IESG and not yet the final text which will be sent to the NOMCOM It is available here: