Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-17 Thread Ignacio Silva-Lepe
A further attempt at simplifying the explanation of conversation id and propagation. Basically, if a service component is conversational (i.e., its interface is annotated as such) then there are two cases: (1) if the component is non-remotable then it gets a conv id propagated to it if there is o

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-17 Thread Ignacio Silva-Lepe
Yes, I agree with the nit wrt the interface. One issue with the @Scope("CONVERSATIONAL") annotation is that, as I try to point out below, in my mind it does not make sense to use this kind of scope independently of the interface annotation. Do you agree? On 11/17/06, Jim Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-17 Thread Ignacio Silva-Lepe
Comment to your @Conversation annotation remark inline. On 11/17/06, Pete Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a fairly confusing area and I welcome your efforts to clarify this. On 16/11/06, Ignacio Silva-Lepe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After looking at (the previous) version 0.9 of

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-16 Thread Jim Marino
> the implementation must keep track The definition of scopes was originally in the Java C&I spec, then it was removed with the intention of putting it in Assembly. The spec group then decided it need to go back to the individual language specs. I haven't had the chance to update the Java spec b

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-16 Thread Pete Robbins
On 17/11/06, Jim Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 16, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Pete Robbins wrote: > This is a fairly confusing area and I welcome your efforts to > clarify this. > > On 16/11/06, Ignacio Silva-Lepe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> After looking at (the previous) version 0.9

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-16 Thread Jim Marino
On Nov 16, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Pete Robbins wrote: This is a fairly confusing area and I welcome your efforts to clarify this. On 16/11/06, Ignacio Silva-Lepe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After looking at (the previous) version 0.9 of the C&I spec and a discussion with Jim and Mike Rowley on

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-16 Thread Jim Marino
On Nov 16, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Ignacio Silva-Lepe wrote: After looking at (the previous) version 0.9 of the C&I spec and a discussion with Jim and Mike Rowley on the conversational services section, I am going to try to summarize my current understanding, Jim, Mike, please jump in if I mis-state

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-16 Thread Pete Robbins
This is a fairly confusing area and I welcome your efforts to clarify this. On 16/11/06, Ignacio Silva-Lepe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After looking at (the previous) version 0.9 of the C&I spec and a discussion with Jim and Mike Rowley on the conversational services section, I am going to try

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-16 Thread Ignacio Silva-Lepe
After looking at (the previous) version 0.9 of the C&I spec and a discussion with Jim and Mike Rowley on the conversational services section, I am going to try to summarize my current understanding, Jim, Mike, please jump in if I mis-state or forget to mention something here. A conversation is in

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-15 Thread Ignacio Silva-Lepe
So, are the multiple complementation instances also of one or more types? You don't seem to be saying otherwise. I guess this is probably motivated by transactions, with a conversation id playing the role of a transaction context? It may be useful to try to attach (some of) these properties to th

Re: Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-15 Thread Jim Marino
On Nov 15, 2006, at 8:02 AM, Ignacio Silva-Lepe wrote: The C&I spec seems to imply that a conversation involves a single service component and that's what I have been assuming so far, but I would like to make sure that the restriction indeed applies. There can be multiple component implementat

Clarifying the scope of a conversation

2006-11-15 Thread Ignacio Silva-Lepe
The C&I spec seems to imply that a conversation involves a single service component and that's what I have been assuming so far, but I would like to make sure that the restriction indeed applies. If the restriction does apply then we'll need to be careful about which conversation id is the curren